I have been experimenting with attempting to "red-pill" one of these career ladies recently, though I'm pretty sure it's pointless. She used to be a really hardcore feminist when we dated back in the day and has improved, but not to the point where she's on my new level (I was an egregious feminist simp in those days).
One thing that I do find interesting though is her reasoning for not looking into any SSH material I've suggested: apparently it's "just like" the radical feminist analysis that she was into and eventually rejected as toxic (except for quite a few internalized behavioral habits that sadly linger). I don't know if I disagree, as much as I hate feminism. Maybe that sort of intellectual dissection of society just isn't becoming for women? Women have intrinsic value as long as they are young and fertile so why bother with social hierarchy? Men, on the other hand, seem to have little value outside of a system that sorts by competence and such.
Yeah, I took her at her word that she wanted to understand men which was my bad. We have great chemistry, but I'm not high enough status. Her pagan ways tend to win over my Orthodox Christian preference for chastity til marriage hehe...It's been a shit show though supposedly I helped her through a suicidal stretch last Winter.
Sorry for over sharing and wasting your time, but do you think it's worth sharing your SSH material with "former feminists"?
If you can grasp the concepts, and you can talk, you should be able to persuade marriage, faith, and femininity to her. Even if you like her, but she doesn't pick you, she will find marriage, faith, and femininity. And you'll know that you're persuasive.
That was what I thought, but it doesn't seem like it worked. If I was in a better position currently and had money and prospects in the near term I might be more persuasive.
These girl boss types don't realize they have been trained to behave like men.
They spend way too much time trying to turn everything into a battle of wills against whoever is unfortunate enough to have to interact with them.
I remember one in particular who probably weighed a buck fifty, and yet somehow when she walked on the carpeted floor, you could audibly pick up her feet stomping. None of even the big dudes could manage that.
The angry, chip on the shoulder, ready to attack at an instant personality on many of them is like a red flag factory.
Someone could probably create a successful blog on the single topic of the girl boss type.
She has become the man she wants to marry which means the beta bucks side is well taken care of. What is left is the alpha fucks side which means they are not wiling to lock her down but for recreational use only.
Sad reality but they are well taken care of by deltas and gammas who are looking for an equal partner with accolades.
Gamma introducing wife: Meet cathy she is a doctor of medicine.
The advice my father gave me was that women wanted a good dependable provider. This was decent advice for the pre-feminism (PSYOP) pre-contraception culture he knew, but not so much for the post-feminism culture we've had since the 70s. It's still a factor, but I think the value has declined.
This is why most people lose their money in the stock market. I know someone who tried to trade CFDs and did over 50 trades and got the direction wrong on 100% of them. I told him to trade exactly the opposite to what you "think" and you'll be the world's first trillionaire
That is how trading providers make a huge chunk of their money. There's the so called 90/90/90 rule. Meaning that 90 % of retail traders will lose 90 % of their money within 90 days. So they will just let bots bet the opposite of what retail traders are doing.
An elderly man is selling a service. He is technically proficient tho perhaps not as good as he thinks he is, but his manner is arrogant. He thinks he is top dog and has nothing more to learn. He is losing customers and cannot understand why. He raised his prices then had to drop them due to falling demand. He blames the customers. He recently remarried a very much younger woman and has a young child, adding to his financial pressures. It is unlikely he will either course-correct or find another market.
From what I hear, this man had a rather spoiled upbringing: lots of praise, little correction. Who can tell him now? A superior recently criticized him mildly in public: he took offence, waxed indignant and defensive. Sigh.
Question: When our host refers to Gammas exhibiting woman-like behavior, is this an example of what he's referring to?
My perception is that certain women seem to believe that their "strong independence and career"(R) is a plus in the eyes of men. It is not.
My perception is also that Gammas (and perhaps some others) believe that women desire and respect "nice guys"(R). They do not. Being polite is not the same as being a "nice guy"(R). Being a "nice guy"(R) looks like thirst and weakness, which any woman can sense at a range approximately the distance between Houston and El Paso.
I'm pretty sure it's referring to women's solipsism/self-centeredness. Gammas behave like women in that way. (Think of the tattooed girl who demands a perfect man but then says 'I *am* the table', and the Gamma who thinks he deserves a 'perfect 10, slender but round in all the right places, feeds and keeps house for him' meanwhile he has a Mountain Dew gut and lives in mom's basement playing Minecraft all day.) And perhaps in other ways as well.
This comic is focused on a particular behavior of career-focused women who bought into feminist lies and can't find men who want them for their achievements.
The subset of men who act like women are not just acting like feminist women, but women in general. They are not following the rules men should be following, nor fulfilling the role men are supposed to fill.
The reason why they do that varies. The effect is that they are unattractive and need to unlearn those habits. Women have qualities and responsibilities that justify them behaving like women. Men do not.
In the feminists' defense, before she meets a man who sells 'barefoot, pregnant in the kitchen' to her, being bossy is her best choice. As other salesmen sell everything else to her, everything else she has voluntarily bought, yet 'does not at all need'. Every other man with a wife or a girlfriend could sell dick to her. Why won't you, you incredibly masculine man, if you like her so much?
Concur..Vox can only answer the question of what he intended. However as for niceness, that is like water to a fish. Taken for granted. It’s only in its absence does it matter. And even then, it’s who delivers it. Niceness is water, being nice is just a background expectation. It is the lubricant of society. The issue is the ladies perception; overly gratuitous, perceived as talking down to them, inappropriate time or location, or in front of others, especially other women, etc. etc.
I worked with a gentleman who had gravitas. No matter the situation, people listened to him, men and women. It was truly amazing. Then there were those with negative gravitas (Gammas) that no matter the situation no one, especially the ladies, paid attention to whatever they said.
Relationships are just like hiring. I learned quickly that one does NOT hire the best person for the job. One hires the least objectionable.
Reduce applicants quickly using reasons to reject. Not qualified , poorly crafted resume, prior work history, age vs claimed skill set, exaggerated job titles and history, no references or references not in field. No relevant experience, etc. Then look at the remainder. Those are the ‘winners’ to select from. In relationship hunting as opposed to one night stands, it’s the same. Knowing auto rejection issues (personality, obesity, hygiene, tattoos, physiognomy danger signs, idiotic politics, no common long term values, etc.). Each is looking for different things depending where they are at that time.
My exposure to those types of women is that their demand/expectations don’t match what they bring to the party. Whatever, never try to help them reset their expectations. Reality does eventually bite, although it may take decades. They never consider that personality or shared values matter. Be surprised when they finally recognize reality. Painful, it is for them.
Feminism teaches that men desire what woman desire. Namely resources, protection and intelligence. But biology determines what men want, namely youth, beauty and fertility ( with a dose of submission and sweetness thrown in). Biology always wins.
That's probably a part of it, but a lot of it is cultural. How many generations of girls have been taught that: being feminine is the worst thing they can be; their lives should be defined by a career and that being a wife & mother is practically slavery; and even if they get married they should still have a career in case they get divorced?
Very little in Clown World America is conducive to the formation of healthy male-female dynamics or to understanding attraction between the sexes. Girls are told that being a girl boss is the best thing they can be, and plenty of them believe it.
Too few of the guys who disagree with 'girl-bossing' sell femininity to her well enough. If you like her, sell her marriage. If he can't, he is as single as she is.
Concur, you are absolutely right. That is why it’s so important for the parents to be parents and grandparents to be grandparents, set an example. Kids will model. We work at keeping Clown world at bay. Growing up, we made it clear that we expected our girls to get a worthwhile education, marry decent men and have children. They did not disappoint. Family first. You can always get a job, a good family is harder to get.
Parents need to set standards and expectations, can’t leave it to the media and government educational complexes.
Ok, that part was funny, but then I'm also picturing you as Sumdood hitting on one of those pink hatted Karens from 2016. Not sure if that's where you were going with it, though...
What a man wants...
https://youtube.com/shorts/oFtCCVM5saM?si=_St5wa9NG0ID7Vqj
I have been experimenting with attempting to "red-pill" one of these career ladies recently, though I'm pretty sure it's pointless. She used to be a really hardcore feminist when we dated back in the day and has improved, but not to the point where she's on my new level (I was an egregious feminist simp in those days).
One thing that I do find interesting though is her reasoning for not looking into any SSH material I've suggested: apparently it's "just like" the radical feminist analysis that she was into and eventually rejected as toxic (except for quite a few internalized behavioral habits that sadly linger). I don't know if I disagree, as much as I hate feminism. Maybe that sort of intellectual dissection of society just isn't becoming for women? Women have intrinsic value as long as they are young and fertile so why bother with social hierarchy? Men, on the other hand, seem to have little value outside of a system that sorts by competence and such.
SSH doesn't apply to women. And most women have no interest in understanding men or male behavior.
Yeah, I took her at her word that she wanted to understand men which was my bad. We have great chemistry, but I'm not high enough status. Her pagan ways tend to win over my Orthodox Christian preference for chastity til marriage hehe...It's been a shit show though supposedly I helped her through a suicidal stretch last Winter.
Sorry for over sharing and wasting your time, but do you think it's worth sharing your SSH material with "former feminists"?
If you can grasp the concepts, and you can talk, you should be able to persuade marriage, faith, and femininity to her. Even if you like her, but she doesn't pick you, she will find marriage, faith, and femininity. And you'll know that you're persuasive.
That was what I thought, but it doesn't seem like it worked. If I was in a better position currently and had money and prospects in the near term I might be more persuasive.
These girl boss types don't realize they have been trained to behave like men.
They spend way too much time trying to turn everything into a battle of wills against whoever is unfortunate enough to have to interact with them.
I remember one in particular who probably weighed a buck fifty, and yet somehow when she walked on the carpeted floor, you could audibly pick up her feet stomping. None of even the big dudes could manage that.
The angry, chip on the shoulder, ready to attack at an instant personality on many of them is like a red flag factory.
Someone could probably create a successful blog on the single topic of the girl boss type.
The great work of Modernism is continuation of the serpent’s lies in the Garden. Turn men into women and women into men.
She has become the man she wants to marry which means the beta bucks side is well taken care of. What is left is the alpha fucks side which means they are not wiling to lock her down but for recreational use only.
Sad reality but they are well taken care of by deltas and gammas who are looking for an equal partner with accolades.
Gamma introducing wife: Meet cathy she is a doctor of medicine.
The advice my father gave me was that women wanted a good dependable provider. This was decent advice for the pre-feminism (PSYOP) pre-contraception culture he knew, but not so much for the post-feminism culture we've had since the 70s. It's still a factor, but I think the value has declined.
This is why most people lose their money in the stock market. I know someone who tried to trade CFDs and did over 50 trades and got the direction wrong on 100% of them. I told him to trade exactly the opposite to what you "think" and you'll be the world's first trillionaire
That is how trading providers make a huge chunk of their money. There's the so called 90/90/90 rule. Meaning that 90 % of retail traders will lose 90 % of their money within 90 days. So they will just let bots bet the opposite of what retail traders are doing.
That’s how George Costanza made his billions
An elderly man is selling a service. He is technically proficient tho perhaps not as good as he thinks he is, but his manner is arrogant. He thinks he is top dog and has nothing more to learn. He is losing customers and cannot understand why. He raised his prices then had to drop them due to falling demand. He blames the customers. He recently remarried a very much younger woman and has a young child, adding to his financial pressures. It is unlikely he will either course-correct or find another market.
From what I hear, this man had a rather spoiled upbringing: lots of praise, little correction. Who can tell him now? A superior recently criticized him mildly in public: he took offence, waxed indignant and defensive. Sigh.
Question: When our host refers to Gammas exhibiting woman-like behavior, is this an example of what he's referring to?
My perception is that certain women seem to believe that their "strong independence and career"(R) is a plus in the eyes of men. It is not.
My perception is also that Gammas (and perhaps some others) believe that women desire and respect "nice guys"(R). They do not. Being polite is not the same as being a "nice guy"(R). Being a "nice guy"(R) looks like thirst and weakness, which any woman can sense at a range approximately the distance between Houston and El Paso.
Yes. You also see it when Boss Minnie shifts blame onto the opposite sex for not taking what she's offering.
I'm pretty sure it's referring to women's solipsism/self-centeredness. Gammas behave like women in that way. (Think of the tattooed girl who demands a perfect man but then says 'I *am* the table', and the Gamma who thinks he deserves a 'perfect 10, slender but round in all the right places, feeds and keeps house for him' meanwhile he has a Mountain Dew gut and lives in mom's basement playing Minecraft all day.) And perhaps in other ways as well.
This comic is focused on a particular behavior of career-focused women who bought into feminist lies and can't find men who want them for their achievements.
The subset of men who act like women are not just acting like feminist women, but women in general. They are not following the rules men should be following, nor fulfilling the role men are supposed to fill.
The reason why they do that varies. The effect is that they are unattractive and need to unlearn those habits. Women have qualities and responsibilities that justify them behaving like women. Men do not.
In the feminists' defense, before she meets a man who sells 'barefoot, pregnant in the kitchen' to her, being bossy is her best choice. As other salesmen sell everything else to her, everything else she has voluntarily bought, yet 'does not at all need'. Every other man with a wife or a girlfriend could sell dick to her. Why won't you, you incredibly masculine man, if you like her so much?
Concur..Vox can only answer the question of what he intended. However as for niceness, that is like water to a fish. Taken for granted. It’s only in its absence does it matter. And even then, it’s who delivers it. Niceness is water, being nice is just a background expectation. It is the lubricant of society. The issue is the ladies perception; overly gratuitous, perceived as talking down to them, inappropriate time or location, or in front of others, especially other women, etc. etc.
I worked with a gentleman who had gravitas. No matter the situation, people listened to him, men and women. It was truly amazing. Then there were those with negative gravitas (Gammas) that no matter the situation no one, especially the ladies, paid attention to whatever they said.
Relationships are just like hiring. I learned quickly that one does NOT hire the best person for the job. One hires the least objectionable.
Reduce applicants quickly using reasons to reject. Not qualified , poorly crafted resume, prior work history, age vs claimed skill set, exaggerated job titles and history, no references or references not in field. No relevant experience, etc. Then look at the remainder. Those are the ‘winners’ to select from. In relationship hunting as opposed to one night stands, it’s the same. Knowing auto rejection issues (personality, obesity, hygiene, tattoos, physiognomy danger signs, idiotic politics, no common long term values, etc.). Each is looking for different things depending where they are at that time.
My exposure to those types of women is that their demand/expectations don’t match what they bring to the party. Whatever, never try to help them reset their expectations. Reality does eventually bite, although it may take decades. They never consider that personality or shared values matter. Be surprised when they finally recognize reality. Painful, it is for them.
Feminism teaches that men desire what woman desire. Namely resources, protection and intelligence. But biology determines what men want, namely youth, beauty and fertility ( with a dose of submission and sweetness thrown in). Biology always wins.
Feminism is like the alphabet people in that they can’t breed their replacements, thus they must recruit/convert/subvert/pervert from the normals.
They become the man they want, then wonder why the man doesn't want them.
Very likely took a number of marketing classes yet failed to understand how to market herself to her target audience. Solipsism anyone?
That's probably a part of it, but a lot of it is cultural. How many generations of girls have been taught that: being feminine is the worst thing they can be; their lives should be defined by a career and that being a wife & mother is practically slavery; and even if they get married they should still have a career in case they get divorced?
Very little in Clown World America is conducive to the formation of healthy male-female dynamics or to understanding attraction between the sexes. Girls are told that being a girl boss is the best thing they can be, and plenty of them believe it.
Too few of the guys who disagree with 'girl-bossing' sell femininity to her well enough. If you like her, sell her marriage. If he can't, he is as single as she is.
Concur, you are absolutely right. That is why it’s so important for the parents to be parents and grandparents to be grandparents, set an example. Kids will model. We work at keeping Clown world at bay. Growing up, we made it clear that we expected our girls to get a worthwhile education, marry decent men and have children. They did not disappoint. Family first. You can always get a job, a good family is harder to get.
Parents need to set standards and expectations, can’t leave it to the media and government educational complexes.
Your first statement is correct, but was the rest really necessary?
Ok, that part was funny, but then I'm also picturing you as Sumdood hitting on one of those pink hatted Karens from 2016. Not sure if that's where you were going with it, though...