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Floyd's avatar

Isn't trying to control other people's opinions of you something you realize is a futile attempt by middle age? Honestly the best way to piss off naysayers is to not let their words bother you... Or at least not show it does. My habit when I get the urge to argue like that is just STOP TALKING. The mental trick to do this is realize even if you do look bad, saying anymore is more likely to make you look worse than better. Lawyers make you stay quiet for a reason. An alpha would probably redirect and go on the offensive, but if you are not; just STFU. Walking away silently can even come off boss. That's the most you can safely pull off you aren't a alpha.

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Atlas's avatar

I appreciate the amount of content you post, thanks brother

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Lynndell Epp's avatar

VDs response is solid gold. I wish I would have thought of that.

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Kurio_Music's avatar

Listening to and reading Vox over the years have helped me to detach from my typically Delta response to rhetoric. Once you see it it's hard to unsee it. That being said, I know I will have instinctive reactions in times of stress, but the faster I can recognize it, or even anticipate it, the faster I can correct course.

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Kurio_Music's avatar

Even the number of times I used "I" in this comment is indicative of low status, but I justified it by thinking the anecdotal story might be of some limited use to others.

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Vox Day's avatar

"I justified it by thinking the anecdotal story might be of some limited use to others."

Yes, they always do...

Just to clarify, for the benefit of those who might not have perfectly understood what I am talking about, solely for their benefit and not, of course, to aggrandize or draw attention to myself, by "they" I mean Deltas and Gammas.

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Jbearman's avatar

I'm super appreciative for these posts as personally I think it's helpful, in addition to being interesting. I know I'm a delta, but there are moments for everyone where you get attacked and have to handle conflict. In the past I have often handled conflict in the wrong way, to my detriment. Your children observe your behavior, and imitate. The more we can all get rid of dysfunction, the better off our children will be.

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Jay Alan Ungart's avatar

This is great lesson. What a person does under pressure will reveal their SSH.

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Dave Samlensenite's avatar

And yet he's still the best VP of our lifetime. Any SSH analysis on past VPs?

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Jeremiah Attento's avatar

That last bit you wrote would have been said by an Alpha. I remember Trump writing something that sounds very similar to that.

YMMV, but hey. 👌

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DarkLordFan's avatar

Taking the biblical advice of shutting up would be an improvement.

Talking edgy and then taking it back is not convincing to say the least. What is more, the British media is in full frenzy against Vance, and it is not because any factual statements, and possibly is worsened by the fact that the SJWs smell the weakness.

As Trump said, these Clowns do not have the cards. Start acting like it, Vance!

The only benefit here is that Trump may be upset about the responses and stop going along with them for good.

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Avalanche's avatar

I wonder if Vance -- who SEEMS to be "such a nice guy" -- is TOO nice to go for the throat. Trying to explain, to "help Zel understand" and come be rational in the discussion, seems rather Delta, or at least not Bravo? If he could get Zel to stop emoting, and come to the calm negotiating side, then he could achieve his task of getting the Alpha's agreement signed? Trump had to break in and reach for Zel's throat...

Sometimes Vance seems pretty strong, in e.g., politely-but-firmly chastising the Euros about censoring and immigration and locking up their OWN people over migrants, but was he trying to mediate or moderate by pulling Zel back into honor? adulthood? non-Gamma-hood? as an insufficient way of protecting his alpha from the waste of his time?

It may be my misunderstanding of a Bravo's way of backing up his alpha? Of managing others or interceding in their importuning to avoid the gamma annoying the alpha? Or is that not part of a Bravo's usual tasks?

President Trump, as the alpha, had already been assured by this 'team' that all was arranged, this was going to be a SIGNING meeting for the minerals; all prepped and wrapped up. So, Bravo Vance had let his alpha down; albeit, I think it was Rubio and various minions and

ambassadors who has done most of the negotiating. But the Prez had been assured that the agreement was done, this was the ceremonial signing.

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Vox Day's avatar

Stop wondering. You've already been told. This is why men can't stand women and Gammas talking. The point of communication is not to misunderstand things and invent false redefinitions of perfectly understandable concepts.

"I'm just trying to help someone understand something" is very much not Bravo behavior. Bravos are the lieutenants and the policemen, they are there to dish out discipline and eject the troublemakers, not explain anything to anyone.

As a general rule, Bravos are meaner and harsher than Alphas. Think of how Owen "burns the deadwood".

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Avalanche's avatar

I meant situationally-Bravo Vance was not doing the job well. Is Vance a Delta in the Bravo position, and not, or not yet, able to go for the throat? It seemed that Vance was attempting to explain to Zel the mistakes Zel was making, yet Vance was unwilling or unable to be meaner and harsher. Would not leaving it to the alpha to 'discipline' Zel be insufficient Bravo-lieutenant behavior?

So, we watch and wait to see if Vance is able to develop some teeth?

Ah. I think I just made a connection too: while I'm trying to figure out WHY Vance would or would not have the 'teeth' of the Bravo, I should focus instead strictly on the action of NOT him 'grabbing a throat.' Situational and WHAT happens/is done -- not why. Thanks, once again, for pointing at the moon.

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taignobias's avatar

"You're right, my bad. 636 sons of Britain are dead on the sands after a protracted war that, let's be clear, we lost. But, hey, at least you replaced each of those losers with a thousand winners last year."

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Laurentius's avatar

Can they sacrifice all of the UK’s army? That would be great.

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Terry2007's avatar

They have been doing so slowly for decades, through Repeated Defense Reviews and White Papers that result in capacity reductions. They even lease their SLBMs from us.

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Avalanche's avatar

I'm not sure the Army guys need decapitating... it's their 'lords and politicians' who need to be sent to the front! The Army guys just couldn't get a JOB in that dying country, so took a steady check...

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keruru's avatar

The UK literally cannot survive without offshore farms: they cannot grow enough food to feed their population even if they stop doing net zero and start dig for Britain tomorrow.

Free trade is now zombie trade. J. D. Vance cannot drop the rhetorical bombs or hold to a recounting of the facts.

He is a good delta: but the USA needs it's Alphas right now. As a person subject to the delta leadership in NZ -- it is better than the gamma and lambda leadership we suffered under the progressive coalition, but it is not good enough for this crisis.

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GH's avatar

Satanist?

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JW's avatar

JD would make a passable president in a time other than now. Unfortunately for him, the world is changing and it will continue to change for some time. It is not going to go to back to the way it was. We are in a hot war with an international criminal organization pretending to be representative government in the West and this contest will not be decided in 4 years and maybe not even in 12. Even larger than that is the spiritual component of this which cannot be denied. The enemy is in disarray right now, but they will attempt a counteroffensive at some point. Trump was born ready, but JD was not. If I were Trump I'd have the staff going over game film with JD and then we'd engage in some friendly sparring. He needs to learn to take a punch and a few things about moving his feet, counter punching and how to back it up with a steady focused gaze.

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Masked Menace's avatar

This shouldn't be this difficult. I truly wish Vox, or someone like him, was an advisor for Vance. It's simple, it's a battle of narrative. The response Vox posted was absolutely perfect.

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SmokeyJoe's avatar

Most people today take constructive criticism as a personal attack.

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Vox Day's avatar

Literally no one ever wants me as an advisor or consultant. Telling people what they want to hear is simply not in my skillset.

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blacksheep's avatar

Does anger change Delta defensiveness into Alpha aggression?

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Vox Day's avatar

Nothing changes anything X into anything else. Ever. An angry Delta is a very, very different thing than an angry Alpha.

An angry Alpha tends to intimidate everyone. An angry Delta tends to embarrass himself.

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B. E. Gordon's avatar

Unfortunately, Deltas are likely to have a touch of Gamma coming out when they get angry, rather than Alpha.

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Hammer's avatar

No

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IAM Spartacus's avatar

636 brave soldiers died in a police action, not a war. If you seek war, war with Russia then you seek the death of 60,000 brave men. Has Britian forgot the ugliness of war that it would throw its brave young men at a war it need not fight? Better they use those men to recapture its home land then send them to die in a fools errand.

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Avalanche's avatar

You write as if you feel there COULD be any true men in the hierarchy of Britain... alas, alas. Foreigners, (raped) women, (raped and murdered) children, and castrati, all that's left.

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Rayzor's avatar

The EU has lost a war that they didn’t know existed. They are now occupied by the enemy whose numbers continue to grow. They will be relegated to the backwaters of history in the worldwide race to AI supremacy. Whatever one thinks about it that’s where we are heading.

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James Allin's avatar

EU was ruined on purpose by their globalist elites, just like the OBiden regime did to us for four years, unwittingly rebuilding the way for Trump's return.

The difference with the Brits is that they no longer have enough patriotic voters or a proper sense of nationalism to be able to reverse course the way we did.

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Avalanche's avatar

Nor (enough) guns, with which to slow down or moderate our enemy's attacks.

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Nick's avatar

America isn't reversing course. It's just taking a different route, with a new figurehead at the helm.

America faces the same western financial system bankruptcy that the UK, EU, Canada & Australia face.

It appears Trump is part of an American nationalist oligarch group attempting to break away from the several centuries old, globalist oligarch cartel- the owners of the western financial system.

Sort of similar to America breaking away from British control prior to declaring independence.

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Britt's avatar

I could see that, elites fighting elites... just like the War of Independence. Which ushered in a golden age for the US, so let's hope for that.

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