Schopenhauer was not a midwit, he was fluent in seven languages, including Latin and Greek.
We have no IQ data, and based on IQ, Langan's wife Gina is smarter than Vox Day; Thorsten Heitzmann, regent of the Triple Nine Society, has an IQ of 150+. Rick Rosner's even is 190+!
Thomas Wolf, german computer scientist, achieved an IQ score of 196, is a member of the Giga Society -- the test he took was designed by a weirdo named Paul Cooijmans.
After quitting his apprenticeship to become a merchant at around seventeen, Schopenhauer got his Abitur/Reifezeugnis (A-Levels) at age nineteen already -- having mastered both Latin and Greek in less than two years! Then he got his Ph.D in philosophy at age twenty-five.
You guys are pushing fifty and sixty and are unable to read Plutarch in the original Greek!
To quote Gómez Dávila:
"Someone who did not learn Latin and Greek goes through life convinced, even though he may deny it, that he is only semi-cultured."
"The problem is not sexual repression, nor sexual liberation, but sex."
"The 19th century did not live with more anguish because of its sexual repression than the 20th century with its sexual liberation.
Identical obsession, even when the symptoms are the opposite."
"The most recent generations are particularly boring: believing in effect that they invented violence and sex, they copulate doctrinairely and doctrinairely kill."
And so on.
You also cannot "fail at life". Schopenhauer did well. Langan did not reject Schopenhauer either, when he discussed matters with Bernardo Kastrup. Langan, I guess, also failed at life, given that he was lonely most his life and married when he was almost fifty.
Langan's wife Gina has an IQ of 168. More than a standard deviation above Vox Day's IQ.
"out of your league": this is more nonsense frail men tell themselves, as if we want Vox Day's or someone else's wife. This is hilariously stupid. Or as if there exists some kind of algorithm that would result in women not marrying imbeciles. Doesn't exist, otherwise we would not have to have eugenic measures in place -- which Langan also understands, unlike Vox Day. It would have spared me my life, that I reject like the "gamma" Job.
This "SSH" crudely reduces everything to the sexual level, almost Freudian. As I said before, it is a neat way to denigrate and put down men who knew Latin and Greek.
Bruce Charlton also rejects this crude hierarchy, who, in The Genius Famine, remarked about Nietzsche:
"Nietzsche’s work is complex, self-contradictory, evolving; esoteric and brilliant in style, of superb literary quality and shot-through with memorable, incisive insights. Nonetheless the net effect of Nietzsche has been bad."
We don't reject Wagner's works because of Richard Wagner's despicable lifestyle. I reject Nietzsche's atheism, though Vox Day's "criticism" is on the level of a sixteen year old. His posts putting other men down are immature. "Gamma" is just an insult like nerd or loser, it's nothing intellectually mature men would use in their works or writings.
As a child Newton was sadistic, children did not want to play with him. Leibniz never married either. They were more than just some "rank". Just like Jacob Burckhardt, one of the greatest minds of the 19th century, who never married either.
Aquinas never talked to women again after having scared away a prostitute his brothers sent into his cell. He was said to have been a social autist. Aristotle lisped. Who cares?
We aren't all suffering from constant erections unlike Vox Day. Some people read books and learn languages -- including ancient ones like Latin and Greek. You are upset about never having taken the time to learn them, since every educated men in the past at least fluently read Latin.
Just listened to a couple of Nick Fuentes videos on Rumble. He definitely strikes me as Gamma... even admitting to snark and hating women. Although he also hates J.D. Vance. (Which I attribute to jealousy... Vance got to be Trump's token Gamma instead of him.)
They tell us to be original and creative; but not everybody has the allotted talents. Comes a time to see that it is ok to collect and describe the works of others with careful citations. There are many, many tough acts to follow and as they say is no need to reinvent the wheel. But one must put wheels to work. The failure or refusal to accept the reality is a likely factor to formation of the faker, guy winning the game nobody else is playing, cranky redditor, quarrelsome hassler, tubcuddler, secret king. Among the rest of us, the poor moms.
That letter reminds me of what my brother's future MIL said to my mother right before the wedding. She said she had tried to talk my brother out of it because her daughter is crazy. They lasted 2 years, which is longer than most expected. To his credit, she was smoking hot
Martyr Made podcast has an excellent podcast on Nietszche and Dostevesky presenting strong evidence that Nietszche was gamma tell the end, but also, Dostevesky behaved gamma during his early years. Well worth a listen, called the "underground spirit."
Finally, someone has pointed out what I have been saying for almost 20 years, that Schopenhauer is not someone ANYONE should ever have paid ANY attention to at all. Vox is far more forgiving and kind than I am, so even before I read this post (I only glanced at the title so far) I would bet he will find some sliver of possibly some excuse why his complete works should not have been used as toilet paper, but personally, I have invariably referred to Schoppy as a bitter and idiotic retard, who was not fit to give anyone any advice on anything, ever. Now, I will read the post and try and see what the ever too kind Dark Lord says.
Ah. I see even the kind SDL agrees that there is nothing of worth in Shoppy's sloppy and nonsensical thinking. One can only have so much mercy after all.
There comes a point where being forgotten is a mercy. Imagine having pretentions of being a philosopher, but everyone just remembers you as a horse fucker.
That was indeed hilarious. And I also noted that maybe it was unique to her, but if she was any indication, women some 200 years ago were far better acquainted with logic and objective reality than they seem to be today.
And the rest are like, "If you do not eat what's on your plate, you will starve," or "If you keep being rowdy at the table, you will fall over and die."
Absolutely not. Diogenes was probably a Sigma - didn't give a single crap about what anyone thought, not even the great conqueror himself, Alexander, nor the highly respected philosophers of his time.
That said, he sort of took it to the extreme, doing all sorts of weird stuff like sleeping in an old used wine barrel, holding a lit lantern in the middle of the day "looking for an honest man" and presumably not finding one, and taking his meals in the dirt with stray dogs.
He was either an absolute Chad among Sigmas, or an Omega with a severe mental illness who just got some fame for being so gosh-darned weird and ornery, the line is sort of blurry. I've always admired Diogenes but I would not wish to be him.
I'm interested in philosophy generally, yet I know almost nothing of the thought of Schopenhauer and it seems that this is a good thing, not a bad thing.
It is. Truly it is. Imagine a radioactively bitter gamma trying to tell you how you should think about women and love and sex. Then go downhill from there.
Vox needs to write a new series about philosophers and the SSH. It would be interesting to see where some of our favorite philosophers are designated within the SSH.
Where would Mormonism's founder Joseph Smith Jr. rank? He was a charismatic leader which seems to preclude being a Gamma. Yet he borrowed much of his philosophy from other writers without credit, had trouble maintaining control of what he created, and pursued married and young women.
I lean that way too. He definitely wasn't a Bravo, Delta, or Sigma. I suppose it's all the sexual stuff that throws me off but Vox has talked about those moral differences not being part of the SSH.
Schopenhauer was not a midwit, he was fluent in seven languages, including Latin and Greek.
We have no IQ data, and based on IQ, Langan's wife Gina is smarter than Vox Day; Thorsten Heitzmann, regent of the Triple Nine Society, has an IQ of 150+. Rick Rosner's even is 190+!
Thomas Wolf, german computer scientist, achieved an IQ score of 196, is a member of the Giga Society -- the test he took was designed by a weirdo named Paul Cooijmans.
After quitting his apprenticeship to become a merchant at around seventeen, Schopenhauer got his Abitur/Reifezeugnis (A-Levels) at age nineteen already -- having mastered both Latin and Greek in less than two years! Then he got his Ph.D in philosophy at age twenty-five.
You guys are pushing fifty and sixty and are unable to read Plutarch in the original Greek!
To quote Gómez Dávila:
"Someone who did not learn Latin and Greek goes through life convinced, even though he may deny it, that he is only semi-cultured."
"The problem is not sexual repression, nor sexual liberation, but sex."
"The 19th century did not live with more anguish because of its sexual repression than the 20th century with its sexual liberation.
Identical obsession, even when the symptoms are the opposite."
"The most recent generations are particularly boring: believing in effect that they invented violence and sex, they copulate doctrinairely and doctrinairely kill."
And so on.
You also cannot "fail at life". Schopenhauer did well. Langan did not reject Schopenhauer either, when he discussed matters with Bernardo Kastrup. Langan, I guess, also failed at life, given that he was lonely most his life and married when he was almost fifty.
Langan's wife Gina has an IQ of 168. More than a standard deviation above Vox Day's IQ.
"out of your league": this is more nonsense frail men tell themselves, as if we want Vox Day's or someone else's wife. This is hilariously stupid. Or as if there exists some kind of algorithm that would result in women not marrying imbeciles. Doesn't exist, otherwise we would not have to have eugenic measures in place -- which Langan also understands, unlike Vox Day. It would have spared me my life, that I reject like the "gamma" Job.
This "SSH" crudely reduces everything to the sexual level, almost Freudian. As I said before, it is a neat way to denigrate and put down men who knew Latin and Greek.
Bruce Charlton also rejects this crude hierarchy, who, in The Genius Famine, remarked about Nietzsche:
"Nietzsche’s work is complex, self-contradictory, evolving; esoteric and brilliant in style, of superb literary quality and shot-through with memorable, incisive insights. Nonetheless the net effect of Nietzsche has been bad."
We don't reject Wagner's works because of Richard Wagner's despicable lifestyle. I reject Nietzsche's atheism, though Vox Day's "criticism" is on the level of a sixteen year old. His posts putting other men down are immature. "Gamma" is just an insult like nerd or loser, it's nothing intellectually mature men would use in their works or writings.
As a child Newton was sadistic, children did not want to play with him. Leibniz never married either. They were more than just some "rank". Just like Jacob Burckhardt, one of the greatest minds of the 19th century, who never married either.
Aquinas never talked to women again after having scared away a prostitute his brothers sent into his cell. He was said to have been a social autist. Aristotle lisped. Who cares?
We aren't all suffering from constant erections unlike Vox Day. Some people read books and learn languages -- including ancient ones like Latin and Greek. You are upset about never having taken the time to learn them, since every educated men in the past at least fluently read Latin.
Vox, what about doing an SSH profile on Albert Einstein?
Just listened to a couple of Nick Fuentes videos on Rumble. He definitely strikes me as Gamma... even admitting to snark and hating women. Although he also hates J.D. Vance. (Which I attribute to jealousy... Vance got to be Trump's token Gamma instead of him.)
Call him gay or a fed and it washes off him, but call him a leftist and he looses it.
Does anyone know Martin Luther's SSH rank?
They tell us to be original and creative; but not everybody has the allotted talents. Comes a time to see that it is ok to collect and describe the works of others with careful citations. There are many, many tough acts to follow and as they say is no need to reinvent the wheel. But one must put wheels to work. The failure or refusal to accept the reality is a likely factor to formation of the faker, guy winning the game nobody else is playing, cranky redditor, quarrelsome hassler, tubcuddler, secret king. Among the rest of us, the poor moms.
SSH is undefeated. That letter to her son Arthur is a give away tell for a gamma.
That letter reminds me of what my brother's future MIL said to my mother right before the wedding. She said she had tried to talk my brother out of it because her daughter is crazy. They lasted 2 years, which is longer than most expected. To his credit, she was smoking hot
smoking hot will get a gal a lot of tolerance
Martyr Made podcast has an excellent podcast on Nietszche and Dostevesky presenting strong evidence that Nietszche was gamma tell the end, but also, Dostevesky behaved gamma during his early years. Well worth a listen, called the "underground spirit."
THANK YOU!
Finally, someone has pointed out what I have been saying for almost 20 years, that Schopenhauer is not someone ANYONE should ever have paid ANY attention to at all. Vox is far more forgiving and kind than I am, so even before I read this post (I only glanced at the title so far) I would bet he will find some sliver of possibly some excuse why his complete works should not have been used as toilet paper, but personally, I have invariably referred to Schoppy as a bitter and idiotic retard, who was not fit to give anyone any advice on anything, ever. Now, I will read the post and try and see what the ever too kind Dark Lord says.
I remember Stardusk:
https://m.youtube.com/@thinking-ape6483
Quoting him on his channel believing he has worthy things to say.
And yes, having glanced at his channel, he is a black pill moron.
I have no idea who Stardusk is, but any who says Choppy has anything useful to say is a moron.
Ah. I see even the kind SDL agrees that there is nothing of worth in Shoppy's sloppy and nonsensical thinking. One can only have so much mercy after all.
There comes a point where being forgotten is a mercy. Imagine having pretentions of being a philosopher, but everyone just remembers you as a horse fucker.
Fuck just one horse...
Funnily enough, you're hardly less kind than his own mother.
That was indeed hilarious. And I also noted that maybe it was unique to her, but if she was any indication, women some 200 years ago were far better acquainted with logic and objective reality than they seem to be today.
Fables and fairy tales are the philosophy of the everyman. The German fables are famously straightforward and lacking in whimsy.
Most German fairy tales are just about a guy marrying a princess.
And the rest are like, "If you do not eat what's on your plate, you will starve," or "If you keep being rowdy at the table, you will fall over and die."
I used to feel bad about never going to college and studying philosophy and such.
Now not so much.
Oh no...
I went to look up philosophy I was formerly fond of and Yamamoto Tsunetomo's picture looks a lot like Schope's here.
So much for trying to follow masculine codes...
How foolish I am.
And now I know what gammas looked like in the time before the Fedora.
What about Diogenes? Even Alexander respected him, and he died partying. Alpha male?
Absolutely not. Diogenes was probably a Sigma - didn't give a single crap about what anyone thought, not even the great conqueror himself, Alexander, nor the highly respected philosophers of his time.
That said, he sort of took it to the extreme, doing all sorts of weird stuff like sleeping in an old used wine barrel, holding a lit lantern in the middle of the day "looking for an honest man" and presumably not finding one, and taking his meals in the dirt with stray dogs.
He was either an absolute Chad among Sigmas, or an Omega with a severe mental illness who just got some fame for being so gosh-darned weird and ornery, the line is sort of blurry. I've always admired Diogenes but I would not wish to be him.
I'm interested in philosophy generally, yet I know almost nothing of the thought of Schopenhauer and it seems that this is a good thing, not a bad thing.
It is. Truly it is. Imagine a radioactively bitter gamma trying to tell you how you should think about women and love and sex. Then go downhill from there.
Yuck. Thank you and VD for shortening my already several life times long reading list at least at the margin!
Vox needs to write a new series about philosophers and the SSH. It would be interesting to see where some of our favorite philosophers are designated within the SSH.
Where would Mormonism's founder Joseph Smith Jr. rank? He was a charismatic leader which seems to preclude being a Gamma. Yet he borrowed much of his philosophy from other writers without credit, had trouble maintaining control of what he created, and pursued married and young women.
Former Mormon asking.
Both Smith and Brigham Young were definitely Alphas.
I'm biased towards Alpha on this one. He doesn't strike me so much as a Secret King as a False King.
The Book of Mormon isn't exactly elegantly written, but it's not really comprised of walls of text or bafflegarble from what I've read.
He was well followed, although many either wised up or wandered off to one of the other sects his friends were forming.
Admittedly, my understanding is rather shallow, but that's my initial thought.
I lean that way too. He definitely wasn't a Bravo, Delta, or Sigma. I suppose it's all the sexual stuff that throws me off but Vox has talked about those moral differences not being part of the SSH.