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Texas Arcane's avatar

Break it to me again why I want to have sex with random females by spending a lot of hard work adapting myself and my mission to what will attract them.

90% of women are now dry-fires. No round in the breech. They are sterile and that is before evaluating their intelligence and character and potential as wives, which is nothing for most of them.

https://substack.com/@texasarcane/note/c-97009051

It's so much later than you could possibly imagine. There is a lot going on in the world below the headlines and it's a million times worse than most imagine. Just a topical scan will not reveal biological damage that is so epic it would cause 3/4s to suicide if they knew the truth.

Somebody has pre-empted women in general. They were killed years ago and just now are finding out. Don't chase women who are sterile, hidden opposition and anathema to any house they manage to steal into.

https://clevelandmarkblakemore.substack.com/p/the-disappearance-of-eros

https://clevelandmarkblakemore.substack.com/p/the-death-of-eros-part-two

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Dave's avatar

Strictly speaking when something becomes more scarce you need to become better at getting it, not worse.

•If food becomes difficult to buy you need to become better at foraging

•If electricity becomes hard to get from the grid you need to have prepared your own method of power generation

•If meat becomes hard to get you need become even better at hunting

•If women are down to 10% viability, as you say, then you need to be that much better at attraction so when that opportunity comes up you can snatch them up

It behooves you to be even better in times of want.

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Sharon R. Fiore's avatar

Yes, I was reading an Oprah book club book about fear and how we do know when we are in danger. There was a story of a woman who had been attacked. She said that she started to feel weird, but didn’t take it seriously enough.

But if a girl does get really weirded out, they know what the dangers are and it’s just safer not to give another chance

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Balkan Yankee's avatar

The Gift of Fear by DeBecker?

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Christian Scheuer's avatar

Did you ever smoke cigarettes Vox? Smoking areas have always been a great place for me to approach or be approached, specially when out alone without a group of friends.

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Vox Day's avatar

No, but I was the only non-smoker in my band. Even just carrying a lighter in your pocket can be very useful in this regard.

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Christian Scheuer's avatar

Interesting! 100% about the lighter!!

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MV's avatar

Social proof is everything. Though as you improve yourself, it's important to keep in mind who you're improving yourself for in the first place.

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Filip L's avatar

So true.

I remember when I was young playing soccer, all in my class was playing soccer and the hottest girl from my class was sitting watching our game with 3 of her friends.

I did a sweet sliding tackle that recovered the ball right in front of them. When I went to pic the ball up for a throw in she said ”Hi!” Very excited out of nowhere.

I hand’t barely spoken with her before

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Filip L's avatar

No, I took my shoot and failed c'est la vie

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Swaggins's avatar

I've been waiting weeks to ask this question so it's at least somewhat related to the topic at hand - this is the close as it's got so here it goes.

Vox, do you have any rules of thumb for how the various types of men should behave on the dance floor? I remember decades ago Style saying not to do it unless you can use it as a DHV.

How did you handle the no doubt copious number of requests to dance with girls during your younger days?

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Vox Day's avatar

I was usually the one asking them to dance. But I'm a good dancer with excellent rhythm; my best friend is a fantastic Latin and Samba dancer whose wife is a quasi-pro from Brazil. So it was a DHV for us, although the third member of our little downtown crew never, ever once set foot on the dance floor, as he couldn't dance, and more importantly, wouldn't have wanted to mess up his hair.

If you can't dance, then take some lessons. Learn to move on the 1 instead of the 2, how to move your hips and shoulders, and feel the rhythm. Shouldn't take more than 10 or 20 lessons, I wouldn't think, before you're more competent than the average guy hiding behind his beer.

But you should have known the answer, if you've ever heard Bass is in the Blood. No one who can't move would have written that. At the end of the day, it's all about the confidence in one's body. One of my friends is a total cheeseball on the dance floor, but he's so exuberant and fearless that girls one-third his age are delighted to dance with him.

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a circus boy's avatar

For social/pairs dance, once you have about 10 group lessons under your belt, along with 10 nights of social dancing, you need some private lessons about leading.

How to lead, in a way that's innately obvious to your female follower, is a learned skill, so once you get used to the dance, that's the next step for a guy.

Once you can lead, it's just watching the floor for new tricks and figuring out how to lead those tricks. Making friends with the guy is the easy way to learn how to lead the trick.

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LightningBugsinaWood's avatar

I met my husband in a salsa dancing dance. He was miles ahead of any of the other dudes.

But the other guys who started out clunky, off beat, lacking in confidence to be a good lead- all improved over the course of the year. None of them would ever be mistaken for a natural mover, but they gain enough skills to feel secure in their movements and in how to lead their partner. By the end they were all fun to dance with because of it, regardless of where there landed on skill level.

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Christian Scheuer's avatar

Hey, how tall is your husband? Do you think it is harder for taller guys to be less clunky? I'm 6'2 and couldn't do it if my life depended on it.

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LightningBugsinaWood's avatar

He’s 5’11, but a natural mover. He was into boxing and other martial arts before he took up partner dancing. Which requires a focus on how you move also.

We learned Rueda where you change partners constantly, and I’d say clunkiness was independent of size. You can learn to be smooth with practice, but someone who starts out clunky won’t move like a natural. But you can still be a really fun partner.

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Butterchurn Girl's avatar

Height is not the issue. My Alpha son is 6'5" and he is an excellent dancer, a natural. My Gamma son is 6'5" and not at all graceful. I taught Alpha all the Latin dance stuff I used to do in competition. I taught Gamma to stick to the basic side-touch, side-touch step and not flail his arms.

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Swaggins's avatar

Butterchurn churnin out the giants. 🫡

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Vox Day's avatar

The best male dancer I know is 6'2". It's not the height.

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Coffee Guy Chris's avatar

Men need to remember in situations like these that women are emotional creatures. She will feel about you somehow before she ever thinks about you. This means that if she feels disappointed, grossed out, creeped out, or downright afraid of you, there is literally NOTHING you can do to change her mind. Accept your loss and move on. In the club, bar, restaurant, or whatever social venue, women don’t give second chances.

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MV's avatar

Bingo. It isn't necessarily how you look, it's how your appearance makes her feel.

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Angela's avatar

Haha...yes! One of the guys in my sister's social circle back in college was an absolute hottie. As soon as he started talking people realized he was socially clueless and awkward. All his pals would bring him out to clubs and tell him to just sit there and smile and not say anything. They used him to draw girls while they did the talking. According to my sister they were all very successful. They had a nickname for him but I don't remember it. It was a type of shiny fly fishing bait.

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CactusEaterBear's avatar

Oh, my goodness Angela. We lived parallel lives. I named ours Mark the Mute. If you were in Lubbock, I might lose my mind.

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Angela's avatar

Haha... that's hilarious. It benefits everyone. Eventually it helped the honey pot too, he met a girl and got married also.

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Vox Day's avatar

(SMH)

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The Candid Clodhopper's avatar

One of my neighbors is a delta's delta married to a 10.

He's also won the Galax fiddle contest (basically the Super Bowl for fiddlers) a handful of times, and there or at any Old Time or Bluegrass festival in the country everyone knows him and lauds him. Similar to the praise Stoke gets for tennis making him much more attractive, that's for sure the case with my neighbor.

Classic delta disposition and demeanor. Occasionally plays a show and gives lessons, but works full time as a carpenter and handyman. Pretty quiet, just about his business. Delta everything aside, his musical prowess is something special and has a great deal of gravitas.

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Mrs. Chad Mungus's avatar

We women love a musician!

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The Candid Clodhopper's avatar

He's the best fiddler I've ever heard in person and it's not even close. He's won pretty much every fiddle competition in Appalachia at least once… I know lesser fiddlers who have played with the likes of Bela Fleck, Del McCoury, Vassar Clements, Vince Hermann, etc.

But he's like, “Nah, I don't really have time. I gotta go to work and hang out with my wife and daughter and our dogs.”

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Aristides's avatar

I remember going on a moderately successful first date with a girl, and getting invited to a second date at a club where I was encouraged to bring my friends. I brought my best friend, an ugly Gamma. I got ghosted after that date, and I never thought that he might have been part of the reason until now.

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BodrevBodrev's avatar

Similar experience. I had a gamma tagalong. A waitress invited me to a party, and him apparently because he was with me. The party was on Wednesday and I couldn't go because I had work in the morning, but I figured, she's interested I'd talk her up on the Weekend. The gamma naturally went crazy about her and by the time the weekend came he'd embarrassed himself multiple times going there alone, trying to catch her attention, and embarrassing me by association. I knew I should ditch the gamma as soon as I saw the bitchface back on. He wasn't even bad looking though, but apparently gamma does not discriminate based on looks.

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Vox Day's avatar

Yes, you definitely shot yourself in the foot with that one. You not only embarrassed her in front of her friends, you significantly reduced your own attractiveness by showing her negative social proof.

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Edwin's avatar

Oh well, capability is one factor. It will land you one or two dates. But when it come to marriage decision, your past (if this is your second marriage) and your vision (where to stay, how many children or childless) matters...

No matter how hard you work, earn or socialize, the past cannot be changed

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Rayzor's avatar

It’s called the past for a reason. Because it’s past. Most likely, you’re the only one still thinking about it. Men have an enormous ability to improve themselves from almost any starting point. That was the point of the post. Make enough changes in yourself to improve your own self regard and you will attract women to you. Everything else is making excuses.

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Edwin's avatar

Well, have tried for 2-3 years and dating around 6-7 persons (series of 3-6 months)

Unfortunately, my taste is also high for women, due to my track record.

I am not having difficulty in attracting women online, but those women are really from the same disadvantaged background and I do not feel attracted to them

My difficulty is that my track record is quite high but my family background is terrible. I have won math Olympiad since my high school, I represented my univ in international programming competition, I graduated from NUS and I used to work with Sun Microsystems, Kaspersky Lab, and Certis Cisco. I am currently assistant prof on permanent tenure

With such background I don't think I need self improvement of playing guitar or salsa dance. But the problem is that the women in such background usually come from well-off family that really not interested in me.

I have also no interest in going to industry since I think I have reasonably paid well (US equivalent of 250-300k) and it costs me an arm and leg to get where I am now. If I need to become CTO and launch global unicorn, I will rather just give up.

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Scott A's avatar

If i was a gambling man, id put money on you being the next one banned if you are the same guy who was complaining a few weeks ago about how you cant afford anything because your personal assistant is too expensive . It’s never youre fault? Got it. Stop bitching

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S3er's avatar

"It's not me, that's the problem! It's everybody else!"

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a circus boy's avatar

All your "accolades" are stuff that women don't care about.

They care that you have money, but beyond that, they don't care about any of your intellectual awards or what companies you've worked for. Vox has multiple posts about how being intelligent is detrimental to dating.

As for salsa, or any latin dance, it's full of first and second generation Brazilians, Argentinians, Chileans, who are all working normal jobs, come from normal backgrounds. The vast majority are far from being well-off.

Same holds true for any musical instrument - women from all parts of life love music, so they enjoy listening to anyone who's good at playing.

You've dumped on skills known to be attractive to women, while highlighting skills known to turn off women.

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Scott A's avatar

I am umc and so are all my friends so not a ton of gold diggers but i think women care a lot less about money than men think they do. Especially if theyre in to you.

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Christian Scheuer's avatar

"With such background I don't think I need self improvement of playing guitar or salsa dance."

My brother, you would need to be in another ballpark of men to be able to get away with this if you are really aiming that high with the women.

And even so, you could press a magical button and become a billionaire that looks like prime Brad Pitt and still not be fun to be around, to hang out with, to live together with, specially with this kind of mentality.

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Julie C's avatar

Yep, this guy sounds like an insufferable boor. And bore. Watching a guy do coding or math is not appealing; watching a guy sing or dance well - or do any physical activity well, honestly - most definitely is.

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Vox Day's avatar

Your problem is that a) you're a narcissist and b) you fail to grasp that women have agency.

They're neither interested in nor impressed by the things that interest and impress you. If you want to have a relationship with someone besides yourself, you need to respect their preferences and interests.

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Edwin's avatar

It is fine if you think that way 🙂. Please continue to post other interesting topics and ignore my post.

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Rayzor's avatar

“It is fine if you think that way”. A dismissive remark by another secret king. Condensing everything you said to “I’ve achieved so much it must be the women’s fault for not recognizing my accomplishments. I deserve so much more.” So, no need to improve.

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Edwin's avatar

No, I knew exactly what you guys are talking about. Most of well-paying jobs are boring, hard, and/or dangerous. But it pays the bills to raise a family.

With parent, kid, and nanny to feed, can someone master multiple hobbies while doing his expected competitive job equally well?

Unless you are Premier League players or Justin Bieber, getting good at sports or music do not pay the bill. I will rather take a nap.

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Jefferson Kim's avatar

This is a hard pill to take for the nerdy, loner wealthy men who made their wealth outside of the SSH. Many of the digital nomads. Sexpats. There requires a disproportionate amount of display of wealth to substitute for social proof.

On the pickup, club scene, one of the techniques to create "good vibes" is to create a false sense of social proof by bouncing around the night club with a continuous circuit of short, positive interactions with everyone, irregardless of their attraction level or gender. You repeat this cycle with the same people throughout the night helping everyone have a good time. High five, complimenting their shirt, doing something funny, etc.. Keep it short, and move on.

In a way, you are creating an artificial appearance that you're the most popular one there. Contrast this to wallflowers. Eventually, you'll bump into the ones you're attracted to, but it won't seem as artificial since you've been bouncing around all night and it seems like everyone knows you and are happy to interact with you.

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info1234's avatar

An Honor Guard gives you a greater appearance of Glory.

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Vox Day's avatar

There is a reason it is called the SOCIO-sexual hierarchy. And women are more socially-oriented than men.

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Texas Arcane's avatar

If you really think it through, you will realize how difficult it is to cultivate good character and hone your brain and also attract women.

Women don't care about intelligence, acumen or virtue. Not the least bit attractive to them despite being excellent qualities you'd look for in a boyfriend or husband if you could reason.

The only reason any woman was ever interested in me was that I was a pretty face. Also, after a spectacular accomplishment women would be interested in me briefly as a center of attention by others. Outside of that, I was nearly invisible to them otherwise.

This alone should tell you evolution is complete baloney. Woman never selected for intelligence and do not necessarily select for physical strength so much as external aggression. Good traits for old world primates perhaps but civilization needs so much more than scrawny hip-cats walking around in gold chains and snapping their fingers. Most males are heat-death to societies and woman drawn to quasi-psychopaths like moths to flame. They are all about genetic failure.

Modern man after getting an injection of quality genes from "Neanderthals" (Adamic man) has been on greased rails to the bottom. It's only a matter of time.

Apparently God did not design the system to be self-repairing after it's initial launch.

Women are more Lilith and less Eve as time goes on.

I lied about just being a pretty face to women.

I noticed a few times in New York if I body-slammed somebody they'd come running despite me working on that corner for years. Probably would draw an even bigger crowd of hot girls breaking into dormitories to butt-rape them to death like Ted Bundy.

My question is how you're going to draw a quality female when the advice on here is to bottom feed on the genetic dregs by acting like a psychopath?

Sorry, I need sex this evening. Gonna take a chainsaw to some elderly people out in front of the Bingo Parlor. It never fails to draw women flush and aroused.

I'm starting to wonder if Omega male Gaiman was onto something using coconut oil to sodomize the baby sitter. Neil may have wrapped around to Alpha at this point.

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Brian's avatar

God most certainly did not

"not design the system to be self-repairing after it's initial launch".

On the other hand, He did come down in Person, seeking and saving His lost sheep, becoming our Propitiation, and giving eternal life to all who come to Him by faith

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Texas Arcane's avatar

Speaking of the original perfection in men and women in Eden.

Evidence for evolution is zero, nothing.

It's all decline ever since.

Most modern men and women have brains roughly on par with squirrels.

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Edwin's avatar

"Women are more Lilith and less Eve as time goes on"

I agreed with you

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Brian's avatar

It's ironic that you complain about women being more like Lilith than Eve, yet you seek women of exceptional physical beauty (you mentioned beauty pageant winners), who are taller than you.

That sounds a lot like Jadis of Charn who became the White Witch. Mr Beaver said that she was descended from Lilith and the Jinn on one side and giants on the other.

Eve on the other hand is the mother of all the living. Maybe you should seek a nice pleasantly attractive but maternally inclined woman instead of tall hotties. 😉

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Edwin's avatar

My first crush online is Chinese Christian girl from Changsha, who is 5'9, church pianist, and Chinese medicine practitioner. So, she is actually the best of both side of aisles. Unfortunately, we did not continue due to communication barrier (I spoke only basic Chinese, she cannot speak English)

For Westerner, I prefer Pearl Davis =)

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S3er's avatar

You don't sound well. Don't drink and post.

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Texas Arcane's avatar

I have not drunk alcohol for a lifetime. I just passed three psychological exams in a row after my stroke. Performed most of them like a man in my 20's. I have never been diagnosed nor treated with any mental illness nor taken nor been prescribed any SSRIs. That probably makes me a minority of one in America.

I only had a stroke because of some medication I was dumb enough to take from a doctor.

Sure you are not responding Ad Hominem?

Some people think I have an amazing sense of humor, are you sure you caught that or did you read it deadpan?

Grok 3.0 thought I was as good a writer as Hunter Thompson except sober - his exact words.

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