117 Comments
User's avatar
AngH's avatar

Oh lord, there it is again. The people who immediately lean on "et wuzzz Vassuines!?!?!" on everything every time are just basic bitches in terms of conspiracy theory. I've been on the anti-Gom jabbar train since my big sister was severely injured when we were children. My own child has received none. However, people like this, among them my mother, just send me up a wall. Not every single fucking thing is caused directly and solely by a gum jabbar.

Washing away's avatar

Not sure where I fit in the ssh, probably between the delta and Roissy's omega. Hope Im not gamma. I always missed or misinterpreted signs of interest my way and the "right time" always evaporated long before I realized it. Just thought it was pleasant civility instead of flirting.

And For many years Ive had a lot on the go with work and elder dementia care commitments. Always exhausted and worn out. No western white single woman tolerates their possible partner looking after his own parents. Plus working an outdoor heavy industry trade for many years rules out any female contact. But I love that kind of work. Never could work inside white collar office bs.

My congregation never had any single women in the decades Ive been a member, but confessionally and doctrinally, there is no pull to go anywhere else where I might have the chance to meet someone. Low church protestant gigachurch culture makes me wince

Feel like a failure some days not having made a family. By that standard I probably am. However I don't discern a divine call in a direction where I'm not personally looking after my parents at home in their declining cognitive state. Nor swapping lines of work. This is what I have been blessed with but I sure get lonely sometimes. Sorry for the stream of consciousness but the post title got my eye

TS's avatar

Are there any examples in history of Deltas or Gammas or any rank that has notably improved there status in the SSH?

Also is it possible for an Alpha or Sigma to end up in a situational Delta or Bravo role or potentially end up as a Gamma or Delta as a result of bad choices?

We have a new guy at work who behaves like an Alpha, natural leadership skills, the men immediately look up to him but he's young. 24 and barely out off his time as an apprentice, I don't doubt in 10 years or so he could be a supervisor or project manager if he put his mind to it... He's a little to busy chasing girls and parties in Bali at the moment though.

John Samson's avatar

Note the strategic technical verbiage. That is supposed to demonstrate “expertise”. Meanwhile opening with elliptical irrelevance - “God Makes, Man Breaks” and some “seems” shows the creative profundity.

This took a bit of time to compose. That effort for this level of ignorance and stupidity takes unintentional irony to literally pathetic.

keruru's avatar

The correct question is not how one is a low stauts an but what to fo about it. This is why the graduating gamma posts and managing omega are needed.

If you are not gamma/low delta/omega you have family members of friends who are. It is how to encourage them to be the best they can be within the limitations they have.

Which is exactly the same as it is for all men. A man has to know his weaknesses and limitations, minimize them, and strive for excellence.

NotYourPalFriend's avatar

"encourage them to be the best they can be"

Rarely works, especially with Gammas.

Luke Philp's avatar

Enough digging into my family history has convinced me that my gamma streak isn't so much an inherited characteristic as it is a family curse.

Reddy Piller One's avatar

"... the invention of social media broadcasts Gamma behavior in a manner that was hitherto impossible."

When social media first appeared, I was a pretty slow adopter. Then I started using it, and realized it was an amazing tool to track down old High School buddies and such.

Then reality set it ... it became an elixir for Gammas and Karens (I didn't know what either was at the time, but the virtue signaling drove me up a wall quickly).

In the exposure to Gammas in my world, above and beyond all the obvious tells, there is one that closet Gammas can't resist (even as they read this blog). They can control the wall of text and smart boy talk well enough at times. But they simply cannot stop...

Being a Jackass solely for the sake of Being a Jackass. Social Media enables this for them.

In real life, they act like an ass, everyone ignores it. Or they get a good slap. On Social, they can make their cracks and either start a back and forth, or claim victory when the other person doesn't respond to their ankle biting. They can claim superiority just by putting a ring around their profile pic, and supporting the next thing. It is a simulation for their "secret king."

I had a business example today, where someone who couldn't find the password email had to make a wise crack in every message during the exchange. I banned and refunded him. (I don't know what SSH type is suited for customer service, but whatever it is, it ain't me - but I do it cause I don't want these types around my stuff).

On these pages, a week or so ago, I made an observation of something I see in my world of SSH. I got one response that basically gave an example (including math) of where he thought I was wrong, and had to also be sure to throw out a jab like "use your brain". The very next comment to my post was a high status response, that showed a counter-example that made sense, and made no mention of any personal issues with my comment. Same disagreement with my observation, but night and day delivery.

Being a jackass just to be a jackass doesn't raise status, but it sure highlights it.

DREWIEY's avatar

"I had a business example today, where someone who couldn't find the password email had to make a wise crack in every message during the exchange. I banned and refunded him."

Man this was such a good decision, real time saver. I've been faced with this several times and made the wrong choice. Thought it was just a quirk and ended regretting it big time.

Reddy Piller One's avatar

It took years to learn and apply it. But yes, saves so much time and aggravation in the long run.

Great Gamma's avatar

This comment confirms that since SSH is contextual, someone can be a gamma on the internet but a different SSH status in real life, because your post is basically a gamma wall of text complaining about gammas. Lol.

Vox Day's avatar

No. That's not how it works. Just stop.

NotYourPalFriend's avatar

"someone can be a gamma on the internet but a different SSH status in real life"

No.

A high-Delta might be a contextual Alpha in a very limited context, and anyone might let themselves go due to depression, etc. and end up an Omega, but one is not "situationally Gamma" any more than one can be situationally Lambda.

B. E. Gordon's avatar

Wouldn’t be surprised if Gamma behavior didn’t get significantly worse after Facebook came on the scene. Socially awkward young men who were never taught how to navigate 2000s America would have sucked up that nonsense like a sponge.

Great Gamma's avatar

Gammitude is situational, right? So can someone be a gamma on the internet but a sigma in real life? Would you consider this question "retardery"?

Wander's avatar

No, gammitude is not situational.

Gamma is forever.

B. E. Gordon's avatar

Is there any possible situation where acting Gamma would be anything other than a complete waste of time?

Dave's avatar

Yes.

•You are trying to trick your enemy into thinking you’re easily prodded into action by ego.

•You are trying to get a woman to go away forever.

•You are deliberately trying to waste time, such as delaying a bureaucratic machine that you cannot otherwise defeat.

•You are trying to get good grades at a college or get your PHD passed despite being weak on the subject.

DREWIEY's avatar

So he's like role-playing as an annoying reply guy?

This sounds like alpha in the streets, gamma in the sheets or something 😄

Man of the Atom's avatar

Yet another one. Bets on same guy with many emails and too much time on his hands?

DREWIEY's avatar

In the boondocks article, I noticed that in general gamma males don't like eachother. It's not hate but something else, "Mean girls" vibe. Really catty for no reason.

AML's avatar

Perhaps the delusion bubbles cannot exist in the same space -- sub-atomic particles can't share the same spin states.

Swaggins's avatar

"Never just throw out ideas at others without first thinking them through".

It would be extremely helpful if you'd be willing to share how you take an idea and "certify" it as having been "thought through". Demonstrating how someone with your IQ does that would be an incredible gift in all kinds of thought processes that are basically unimaginable to most people these days.

Vox Day's avatar

That's backwards. It's easier to point to things that obviously haven't been thought through at all. If there are obvious impossibilities or if your assumptions are easily proven wrong, it's quite clear that you haven't spent two seconds thinking about what you're saying.

How dumb would you have to be to not realize that the hypothesized causal factor did not exist when the observed event took place?

Lacey's avatar

A good rule of thumb when asking a question is "has this question already been answered in a previous post?" Vox has addressed SSH in historical context numerous times. Also ask yourself "is my question a genuine request for information, or am I just trying to blow someone's mind with my out-of-the-box smart boy perspective?"

Swaggins's avatar

That's fine, but personally I was more interested in how Vox thinks and tests for truth than how to ask a question.

Cedric's avatar

Read your wall of text before you post it.

Fred R. Kane's avatar

Malvolio, in Shakespeare's Twelfth Night, is another very observable Gamma from the days when vaccines didn't exist. He makes a point of announcing that he doesn't find Feste, the professional fool, funny, gets huffy when Feste makes jokes at his expense, priggishly lectures other characters for being noisy and tipsy, harbors the belief that his employer, Olivia, is secretly in love with him, even though she's hopelessly out of his class, and, after his enemies play on that belief to get him in trouble, refuses to laugh off their prank and stomps offstage vowing revenge.

Goriwei's avatar

"Despite my repeated reminders that at Sigma Game, we are relentlessly focused on the WHAT rather than the WHY or HOW" OK, but if one sees one's son exhibit behaviour, and knowing that it is dating death and that one's blood-line is going extinct, I think one might panic and seek best strategies to stamp any gamma-ness out.

Vox Day's avatar

Best strategies to do the impossible? You're either retarded or you haven't been paying attention. Gammas aren't Omegas. They often marry and have children.

Cedric's avatar

Autism has existed longer than gammas have been seen and described. And it was never someone else's problem to get the autistic son fucked and married.

Sigma Supreme's avatar

If your line dies out its due to your failure to have enough kids to get some girls in the mix. Daughters are guaranteed to get knocked up even if out of wedlock. You should have thought of that.

Goriwei's avatar

LOL. You obviously have no kids. For normal parents (i.e. not boomers) if they see one of their children falling behind, they try to move mountains to fix the situation.

Cedric's avatar

And you’re a textbook example of the worst parent, if you think that it’s anything but your problem. If you can’t get grandchildren, if your children can’t get laid, it’s on you and you alone. It’s not anyone else’s problem.

Sigma Supreme's avatar

Its also pretty obvious boys with sisters can relate to girls better so by having only 1 kid or 2, both boys, you gimp him/them in dating. All parents should keep breeding until they have a gender mix so their kids will be better able to relate to the other gender. Its the one thing the boomers got right, probably by accident.

Goriwei's avatar

Confirmed that you have no kids. Somehow, it seems you resent your parents for not giving you enough sisters.

Ransom of Perelandra's avatar

I have two older sisters, and I find most women unbearably boring.

If anything having sisters taught me to understand women's solipsistic nature.

HBI's avatar

Six sisters. Listening to them complain about their boyfriends was mindnumbing. I used to keep the stereo loud to drown out the bitching.

Yes, there were useful tidbits in there but fewer than you'd think.

Great Gamma's avatar

It was the greatest generation, not the boomers, that got that right. Haha, you are undone.

DREWIEY's avatar

I have a feeling you'll be exposing yourself soon given all the retarded comments and nickname.

Man of the Atom's avatar

no activity, no posts, no follows, 2 likes, over the top name, excessive commenting

we have seen this show before

Reddy Piller One's avatar

The remakes are never as good either.

DREWIEY's avatar

Yeah the name could work but doesn't match his comments. Could just be a teenager sperging.

Elijah's avatar

Before feminism most woman had an accurate gamma detector they called the “ick”. Unfortunately the false inflation of the modern woman’s self esteem due to sad simps and social media has rendered the ick detector almost meaningless. Some girls claim a man loving his mother or having boundaries causes the ick.

Scott Birch's avatar

The Ice is a feeling, not a thought. It's not going away. It's instinct.

Sigma Supreme's avatar

Before feminism women married who their father told them to, even if it was a gamma.

DREWIEY's avatar

Didn't they check with the daughter see if she approves?

B. E. Gordon's avatar

I think the whole point of arranged marriage was to pick a husband for her notwithstanding what she wanted.

Sigma Supreme's avatar

That depends on the culture.

B. E. Gordon's avatar

The ick still works. Go by how they act on the ick IRL rather than what they claim causes them to.

keruru's avatar

In this generation, the ability to think through the consequences of what one is saying is so rare that many never see it, and the smart boys deny it exists.

Baby Boy Bear's avatar

I would love to see Vox write a series on the SSH and the Bible. That would be interesting.

Manuel's avatar

Sometimes Deltas exhibit Gamma traits and in the age of social media it is more difficult to know if you're dealing with a Delta or Gamma at first glance.

But once you get that Wall of Text or the incessant backbiting: Gamma confirmed.