I inherited my love for hockey from my father, who played in college before coaching youth hockey and a state champion high school team. One of his catch phrases was “Hockey is a simple game for stupid people”.
I played ice hockey through high school and played ACHA club hockey for my university. In ice hockey it is all about skating. It starts with the question of how fast are you and how quickly can you get up to speed. The best hockey players in the world are also the fastest skaters. One of the great things about ice hockey is if you are a player then you have a lot of access to the NHL or near NHL players around you. Over the years I've gotten to play off season pick up games against NHLers and even played in adult leagues with retired players. You can always spot the NHLers because their speed just pops. Even if you play with retired players who are in their 60's and even 70 they can out skate really solid guys who are in their 30's.
After that the next big divider is how much do you want to go to the walls and battle for the puck. Look at the 19 year old phenom Macklin Celebrini. He's got other world skills and he can't wait to go get in a puck battle on the walls. Even a lot of good NHL skill players don't like going to the walls and avoid it as much as they can. The best guys love to go to the walls, even guys like Connor McDavid. When you see him live, it's amazing to see how many ways his team has set plays designed to get him the puck on the walls and get him off the walls.
I've got my oldest son working on getting ready to play ice hockey. He's about to turn 6. I have him in skating lessons every week and once or twice a month, I have him put the pads on and practice with a private coach. The purpose is for him to have some fun and get used to practicing. I'm not putting him on a team until he can do all the basic necessary skating moves because what's the point?
I see other little kids working with coaches and some of these kids are out there every day. I really don't get the point of it. After all by the time the boys are 13 they either will be fast enough to play at the highest level or they won't. I remember one time my son's coach had my son do a race drill with a boy who was a couple of years older. The boys lied on the ice, when one coach said go, they got up, skated to the puck and the boy who got there first then took the puck and went in to shoot. The other boy is always out practicing and he would win all of the races but not by very much. Yes the boy's parents got him on a traveling team at a young age but I could just see by his speed baseline that he's not going to be really good, just an over coached kid.
Ice hockey is a great sport for children. First of all, it is expensive so it keeps the dieversity away. No being made miserable by the Africans in America which makes it nearly impossible for a lot of young men to play basketball or having to deal with immigrants lying about their age to dominate against younger players which is a huge problem in youth soccer.
Second it teaches you working class values such as you have to try hard and you have to go to difficult places where you might face some pain getting the puck. It teaches you that nothing is going to be given to you.
Third it drives the gamma out of young men. You are going to talk smack and you are going to get called out for your crap. If you aren't pulling your weight, you are going to hear about it. Hockey is cut and dry, either you scored the goal and your team won or you didn't.
Fourth when the hockey players hit high school, they can hang out and socialize with the cute figure skater girls but not in the weak way of the male figure skaters. The hockey players are looked at as higher status by the figure skater girls. It's one of the few ways young men can find a place where they are perceived as high status by girls. Most hockey guys get a figure skater girlfriend at some point in time. They often marry each other.
Ice hockey is a great sport for young men to play, especially in our current clown culture.
Haven’t really paid attention to sports in a while, but how a man can’t at the very least respect the insane speed at which a McDavid operates at, the longevity of a Ronaldo’s skill, or the sheer iron championship mentality of a Brady is beyond me. Man excelling at sport is always going to be impressive and inspiring. And that’s just individually, never mind the teamwork required to achieve greatness. Long live the athlete.
(And long live hockey, sport of my youth, mate of my soul)
Serious question. Is this an intentional article to bring gammas out of the woodwork and what would be other topics that would elicit a similar response?
I played offensive line and remembering blocking schemes and how they changed based on what the defense showed was a mental challenge...then you have to remember what count the ball would be snapped on. I cant imagine what NFL players have to keep in mind on any given play.
The problem gammas have with sports is that even for a gamma is very challenging to delude yourself into saying you're a secret Pelé or a secret Tom Brady. You can do it or you can't. Of course, at a professional level, an athlete can be more or less well succeeded depending on the team he is, his agent, his coach attitudes, but it is clear that even a Neymar in a bad phase, is still a Neymar.
I'm very Gamma but I went out of my way to play soccer, rugby and Aussie Rules and am very, very happy and proud that I did. Inevitably I ended up as an umpire which I suspect is a good pro-social role for Gammas.
"everyone who has ever been part of the game at any level remains part of the game"
Completely true for every military veteran, and stronger when they are in the company of other veterans - from any service, and even those from other nations.
In reverse, is our total disdain for those who negatively opine on the nature of that profession and obviously never served. And if encountering any stolen valor, why we react immediately with hostility, often to the point of considering violence, to remove the offender.
Being sick and couch-bound, this was the first super bowl I've watched in maybe a decade.
While I never make an effort to watch football, it is easy to get excited by watching the offense make good plays, even though I played defensive line and only touched the ball twice in the two years I played in high school. Once to cover a fumble and the second time to swat a screen pass.
The only reasonable point that seems to be in the ballpark of what the 'sportsballers' are on about is this: I'd love to see a fraction of the energy and dollars that are being given to the NFL, a converged organization that is actively undermining America, directed to forming localized community sports clubs.
A lot of material is now out regarding the half-time show. Some of it recommends stop watching, but most material steers clear from Gamma territory and only ridicules the half-time show.
Cuckservatives match the Gamma level of pretend lack of social awareness and I bet some are already explaining how the clear cut loss is in fact a win and are laying the excuses for the cowardice.
An interesting angle is "putting the woke away" being falsified. Time will tell for certain, but as with Mamdani, when CA is approximately 30 % Spanish speaking, conquest is perhaps a more apt way to put it than bunch of crazies being allowed to run with things.
From where I am sitting, mass market sports consumption looks like a perfect way of robbing men of the chi that might otherwise be spent doing something meaningful with their lives.
Instead of building, creating, working out, or playing sports themselves, they sit on the couch, drink beer and get fat while being more emotionally invested in a bunch of millionaires than their own lives, jobs or families.
They idolize or hate millionaire players who don’t give a shit about them or the community they are supposed to represent. And the stupid sports banter arguing about from guys that can’t do- if that isn’t gamma I don’t know what is.
It’s just bread and circuses all over again to keep the rabble distracted.
They would be sitting in a couch, drinking beer and getting fat without television sports. But this keeps on their mind what they have been in the past.
This is what makes them make sure their sons play football, this is a moment where they can bond with their friends and male family members.
There's far more stuff going on in those backyards during a game than what you think.
This is true, but missing the point of the article. Just because there are guys gambling with fantasy football and avoiding their families doesn't take away from the actual sport.
For most it's just watching top notch athleticism with friends and family. All this eye rolling and scoffing is uncalled for. Especially, when the guys mocking sports pretend to lift until it turns out they can't even bodyweight bench.
Superbowl party was filled with children's laughter and tasty food.
Reading Vox's writeup recalled childhood memories of church flag football, trying to block adults as a teenager. Overmatched and was never an athlete, but fond memories of community time.
I chose non-team sports in MS/HS because the bench is not very appealing to me. Most sportsball guys sit on the bench 90% of the time and then relive their shattered dreams by watching the events on TV, which is fine in a society with a healthy SSH hierarchy even the bench warmers get their due. But that was not the case where I grew up in a multiculti mish-mash. I would have gotten neither minutes nor respect so I chose the superior sport where I got to run in at least one event each weekend in both seasons (and hung out with the football players during indoor track season which was hilarious).
"Most sportsball guys sit on the bench 90% of the time and then relive their shattered dreams by watching the events on TV"
Has this ever happened?
"... so I chose the superior sport"
- Former gamma
Speaking of unlikely events, former Gamma is quite possibly rarer than a Sigma, and we do not see many of those around here. What do you consider yourself now?
Hockey is not the most mentally demanding because you dont have time to think. Hockey puts you in a position where you need to be able to put many skills all together at once but its all muscle memory. You dont think about skating or sticking handling you just do it. Guys at the rec level especially can get by on skill alone. Get that guy the puck and he goes down and scores.
Then it's not mentally demanding. Speed of play from your muscles does not make it mental.
Every competitive sport involves time constraints that don't give you time to think. It's strategic decision making under pressure that makes it mentally taxing. Did you place yourself in the right place so that your reflexes can outmatch your opponent's also excellent reflexes? How has your team of mixed talents been organized to handle your opponent's team of mixed talents?
It should be obvious from this quick list that games with larger team sizes and more mechanics (blocking/throwing/receiving) have more strategic choices that have to be made correctly under high time pressure.
The low status treat it like a moral issue not to do what the high status do even when it’s something that’s objectively better.
I inherited my love for hockey from my father, who played in college before coaching youth hockey and a state champion high school team. One of his catch phrases was “Hockey is a simple game for stupid people”.
I played ice hockey through high school and played ACHA club hockey for my university. In ice hockey it is all about skating. It starts with the question of how fast are you and how quickly can you get up to speed. The best hockey players in the world are also the fastest skaters. One of the great things about ice hockey is if you are a player then you have a lot of access to the NHL or near NHL players around you. Over the years I've gotten to play off season pick up games against NHLers and even played in adult leagues with retired players. You can always spot the NHLers because their speed just pops. Even if you play with retired players who are in their 60's and even 70 they can out skate really solid guys who are in their 30's.
After that the next big divider is how much do you want to go to the walls and battle for the puck. Look at the 19 year old phenom Macklin Celebrini. He's got other world skills and he can't wait to go get in a puck battle on the walls. Even a lot of good NHL skill players don't like going to the walls and avoid it as much as they can. The best guys love to go to the walls, even guys like Connor McDavid. When you see him live, it's amazing to see how many ways his team has set plays designed to get him the puck on the walls and get him off the walls.
I've got my oldest son working on getting ready to play ice hockey. He's about to turn 6. I have him in skating lessons every week and once or twice a month, I have him put the pads on and practice with a private coach. The purpose is for him to have some fun and get used to practicing. I'm not putting him on a team until he can do all the basic necessary skating moves because what's the point?
I see other little kids working with coaches and some of these kids are out there every day. I really don't get the point of it. After all by the time the boys are 13 they either will be fast enough to play at the highest level or they won't. I remember one time my son's coach had my son do a race drill with a boy who was a couple of years older. The boys lied on the ice, when one coach said go, they got up, skated to the puck and the boy who got there first then took the puck and went in to shoot. The other boy is always out practicing and he would win all of the races but not by very much. Yes the boy's parents got him on a traveling team at a young age but I could just see by his speed baseline that he's not going to be really good, just an over coached kid.
Ice hockey is a great sport for children. First of all, it is expensive so it keeps the dieversity away. No being made miserable by the Africans in America which makes it nearly impossible for a lot of young men to play basketball or having to deal with immigrants lying about their age to dominate against younger players which is a huge problem in youth soccer.
Second it teaches you working class values such as you have to try hard and you have to go to difficult places where you might face some pain getting the puck. It teaches you that nothing is going to be given to you.
Third it drives the gamma out of young men. You are going to talk smack and you are going to get called out for your crap. If you aren't pulling your weight, you are going to hear about it. Hockey is cut and dry, either you scored the goal and your team won or you didn't.
Fourth when the hockey players hit high school, they can hang out and socialize with the cute figure skater girls but not in the weak way of the male figure skaters. The hockey players are looked at as higher status by the figure skater girls. It's one of the few ways young men can find a place where they are perceived as high status by girls. Most hockey guys get a figure skater girlfriend at some point in time. They often marry each other.
Ice hockey is a great sport for young men to play, especially in our current clown culture.
Haven’t really paid attention to sports in a while, but how a man can’t at the very least respect the insane speed at which a McDavid operates at, the longevity of a Ronaldo’s skill, or the sheer iron championship mentality of a Brady is beyond me. Man excelling at sport is always going to be impressive and inspiring. And that’s just individually, never mind the teamwork required to achieve greatness. Long live the athlete.
(And long live hockey, sport of my youth, mate of my soul)
Serious question. Is this an intentional article to bring gammas out of the woodwork and what would be other topics that would elicit a similar response?
I think yesterday’s post functioned more as the bait.
I played offensive line and remembering blocking schemes and how they changed based on what the defense showed was a mental challenge...then you have to remember what count the ball would be snapped on. I cant imagine what NFL players have to keep in mind on any given play.
The problem gammas have with sports is that even for a gamma is very challenging to delude yourself into saying you're a secret Pelé or a secret Tom Brady. You can do it or you can't. Of course, at a professional level, an athlete can be more or less well succeeded depending on the team he is, his agent, his coach attitudes, but it is clear that even a Neymar in a bad phase, is still a Neymar.
I'm very Gamma but I went out of my way to play soccer, rugby and Aussie Rules and am very, very happy and proud that I did. Inevitably I ended up as an umpire which I suspect is a good pro-social role for Gammas.
"everyone who has ever been part of the game at any level remains part of the game"
Completely true for every military veteran, and stronger when they are in the company of other veterans - from any service, and even those from other nations.
In reverse, is our total disdain for those who negatively opine on the nature of that profession and obviously never served. And if encountering any stolen valor, why we react immediately with hostility, often to the point of considering violence, to remove the offender.
Stolen valor is literally nothing less than criminal fraud, the same as any other form of identity theft.
Being sick and couch-bound, this was the first super bowl I've watched in maybe a decade.
While I never make an effort to watch football, it is easy to get excited by watching the offense make good plays, even though I played defensive line and only touched the ball twice in the two years I played in high school. Once to cover a fumble and the second time to swat a screen pass.
The only reasonable point that seems to be in the ballpark of what the 'sportsballers' are on about is this: I'd love to see a fraction of the energy and dollars that are being given to the NFL, a converged organization that is actively undermining America, directed to forming localized community sports clubs.
A lot of material is now out regarding the half-time show. Some of it recommends stop watching, but most material steers clear from Gamma territory and only ridicules the half-time show.
Cuckservatives match the Gamma level of pretend lack of social awareness and I bet some are already explaining how the clear cut loss is in fact a win and are laying the excuses for the cowardice.
An interesting angle is "putting the woke away" being falsified. Time will tell for certain, but as with Mamdani, when CA is approximately 30 % Spanish speaking, conquest is perhaps a more apt way to put it than bunch of crazies being allowed to run with things.
Sports consumerism is low status.
From where I am sitting, mass market sports consumption looks like a perfect way of robbing men of the chi that might otherwise be spent doing something meaningful with their lives.
Instead of building, creating, working out, or playing sports themselves, they sit on the couch, drink beer and get fat while being more emotionally invested in a bunch of millionaires than their own lives, jobs or families.
They idolize or hate millionaire players who don’t give a shit about them or the community they are supposed to represent. And the stupid sports banter arguing about from guys that can’t do- if that isn’t gamma I don’t know what is.
It’s just bread and circuses all over again to keep the rabble distracted.
They would be sitting in a couch, drinking beer and getting fat without television sports. But this keeps on their mind what they have been in the past.
This is what makes them make sure their sons play football, this is a moment where they can bond with their friends and male family members.
There's far more stuff going on in those backyards during a game than what you think.
This is true, but missing the point of the article. Just because there are guys gambling with fantasy football and avoiding their families doesn't take away from the actual sport.
For most it's just watching top notch athleticism with friends and family. All this eye rolling and scoffing is uncalled for. Especially, when the guys mocking sports pretend to lift until it turns out they can't even bodyweight bench.
You sound really gay.
Superbowl party was filled with children's laughter and tasty food.
Reading Vox's writeup recalled childhood memories of church flag football, trying to block adults as a teenager. Overmatched and was never an athlete, but fond memories of community time.
I chose non-team sports in MS/HS because the bench is not very appealing to me. Most sportsball guys sit on the bench 90% of the time and then relive their shattered dreams by watching the events on TV, which is fine in a society with a healthy SSH hierarchy even the bench warmers get their due. But that was not the case where I grew up in a multiculti mish-mash. I would have gotten neither minutes nor respect so I chose the superior sport where I got to run in at least one event each weekend in both seasons (and hung out with the football players during indoor track season which was hilarious).
-Former gamma
"Most sportsball guys sit on the bench 90% of the time and then relive their shattered dreams by watching the events on TV"
Has this ever happened?
"... so I chose the superior sport"
- Former gamma
Speaking of unlikely events, former Gamma is quite possibly rarer than a Sigma, and we do not see many of those around here. What do you consider yourself now?
Has what ever happened? I don't understand your first question.
Second question answers itself, I am obviously now a sigma lol
I know almost nothing about sports and even I know that football is immensely more complex than hockey.
Hockey is not the most mentally demanding because you dont have time to think. Hockey puts you in a position where you need to be able to put many skills all together at once but its all muscle memory. You dont think about skating or sticking handling you just do it. Guys at the rec level especially can get by on skill alone. Get that guy the puck and he goes down and scores.
"you dont have time to think"
"its all muscle memory"
Then it's not mentally demanding. Speed of play from your muscles does not make it mental.
Every competitive sport involves time constraints that don't give you time to think. It's strategic decision making under pressure that makes it mentally taxing. Did you place yourself in the right place so that your reflexes can outmatch your opponent's also excellent reflexes? How has your team of mixed talents been organized to handle your opponent's team of mixed talents?
It should be obvious from this quick list that games with larger team sizes and more mechanics (blocking/throwing/receiving) have more strategic choices that have to be made correctly under high time pressure.
No, running is the most mentally demanding because you have to NOT think and that is the highest level of mental discipline