"Yes, it hurts that NONE of my four children want me for Christmas... but this is how I’m taking my revenge…"
What psychological malfunction ruins the mind like this? The causality is off. Wet streets do not cause rain. Rain makes the street wet. How does one, as a parent, not see that neglecting their children is the cause of a lonely Christmas? Is this Boomer able to invest in stocks, which then give dividends? Or is his financial talk of hard work leading to good fruits just noisy bullshit?
One thing the boomers were famous for was undermining the holiday traditions of their parents and grandparents so their kids didn't get to enjoy the holidays properly. Then they turn around and whine that they're not in invited to traditions thy didn't help perpetuate?
If it wasn't for my inlaws "last year boomer and first year gen x" we wouldn't have any traditions. My much older parents are such messes it's hard to describe the cascade of failure that was their tragic lives. To which none was their faults of course.
Some Boomers Boom about that children are getting presents and not them.
So some Boomers are asking for their children to give them presents which the Boomer chooses. It is completely irrelevant if one is not in a position to get a present - present must be given or children be damned.
The generation is hopelessly wicked and self-absorbed. The standard Gamma treatment works well, ignore and stay away.
In praise of pie, lard-filled pie crust is a traditional way of getting Vitamin D in northern climates, and it wasn't only a dessert option - just another food on the table. Lard from pastured pigs is second only to cod-liver oil in Vitamin D. One or two pieces of pie a day can count as both a serving of fruit and a supplement.
I enjoy hearing the light hearted stories. The stories remind us that the supreme dark lord is human like the rest of us. I can feel the amusement in your words telling the stories. I like it. But not too many. A supreme dark lord being has a reputation to maintain.
As a child, I never spent one Christmas at home. We always had to shlep our way across the country to visit everyone, to include childless aunts and uncles, to be "fair." Christmas Day is with my wife and children in our home, and anyone in the family is invited to come and stay for as long as they like. Sometimes it's a fun, full, chaotic Christmas, sometimes it's just us. My mother gets a little pissy when we don't "come home" for Christmas, despite the fact my childhood home was 4 moves and almost 25 years ago. We usually spend New Years with my wife's family, which not only includes the family but half the community.
"Let me guess… you’re not going to leave them any inheritance but your debts! Yeah, I’m pretty sure that was already in the cards, Boomer."
1. Out of all the things they own, they think their money is the most valuable thing they have to offer.
2. Everyone owes them a duty, but they owe no duties to others. They have rights, but no one else has any rights that must be respected.
3. They think nothing of using what they owe to others as leverage and inflicting pain on those close to them.
When Solomon had to judge between two prostitutes, the real mom was willing to sacrifice her right to the child so he could live, while the fake mom saw the child's life as a bargaining chip. Funny how Boomers do that to their real children. And then expect full devotion from them.
I was thinking back about familia holiday conflicts and couldn’t remember any, but then I did. It was a fairly violent incident that happened in 1993 at my grandmother’s house.
It was me and my brother.
He was a fairly obnoxious Cowboys fan and I was a Miami Dolphins fan fresh back from my first enlistment. My brother talked a lot of smack during the whole game, but there was snow on the field, fat ass Leon Lett and the rest is history. Brother didn’t take the loss very well nor did he like the shit talking he received from me. Fisticuffs and wrestling ensued. Dad broke it up. Then we had pie.
Husband and I were invited to spend Thanksgiving with a friend from Minnesota/ Wisconsin once, many years ago. It was truly An Event. We have our family traditions, but nothing on the scale of a Minnesota cookie bake. "Forces being mustered" is an apt description.
I was this old when I learned that not all North Americans bake mountains of cookies at Christmas. But maybe Minnesota is where my family gets it from. My maternal grandmother was half Swedish, raised in Minnesota. Though I guess Germans bake cookies, too. Either way, my mom had all the children we knew in the foreign country we lived in over to bake and decorate piles and piles of cookies every year, and every visitor during the month of December was always sent home with a plate full of different kinds of cookies.
Huge cookie bakes before Christmas are a traditional thing in Sweden, not just cookies though: saffron buns, Marsipan candies, ginger bread, Christmas cakes, etc. Some traditional foods and drinks you start preparing at least several weeks in advance, some several months. There is not a Swede who celebrates Christmas in a traditional way who doesn't put on at least a couple of kilos during Christmas week.
Back in the day, my grandma used to spend weeks baking fruitcakes to send to friends and family. That tradition never lasted, though, because the fruit in fruitcake is a horrible lie, and the rest of the mass is simply a concrete brick made of theoretically edible ingredients. She did also do a small mountain of pies but she always worked alone, up until the year she forgot to add salt and seasonings to the pumpkin pie mix.
These days, everybody contributes something, but at our house we always make an extra turkey to ensure adequate leftovers.
Modern food supply chains and preservation methods made fruitcake obsolete. I can appreciate that at one time, it was probably a fun burst of flavor, but there's no point in pretending to enjoy it these days.
You share my opinion about fruitcake, I see. The extra turkey is a great idea! I used to be the pie baker in my family - and a pretty good one, I might add - but I had to quit gluten over a decade ago, and I haven't been able to find or come up with a pie crust recipe I'm happy with since. It is truly tragic. I really need to have a long pie-baking series of experiments until I develop one that meets my standards.
I've gotten the gf crust texture right a couple times. the technique is also important, because I've tried the same recipe again and failed. Another problem is light and fluffy gf dough rips so easy. I've lost my patience transferring and flipping dough on parchment paper to pie pans.
When I've tried it before I've pretty much always just pressed into the pan, which hasn't seemed to make much of a difference in texture, surprisingly. What ingredients do you use?
That's one of the hard things about quitting gluten, so much of our food revolves around baked goods or flour as an ingredient.
I know people make cookies out of just peanut butter, I wonder if it would be possible to do something like that for a pie crust? Maybe add some almond flour or coconut flour to give it the right texture?
You could probably make a decent peanut butter cookie pie crust, but it would limit flavour options as well as shape, because it would have to be pressed into the pan and not rolled out.
I've been able to do cakes, cookies, muffins and even bread fairly decently, but I have very high standards for pie. I'm also reluctant to use most of the gluten-free alternatives; I try to do all whole grain, if I can, and a bit of things like ground flax seed. Most gluten free baking ends up being based on refined starches, and I prefer more nutrients in my food. When I try again, I'll start with freshly ground brown rice flour. Problem is brown rice flour is super hard and a pain to grind and sift. So I need to get a mill attachment first, I think.
Or I could just try Einkorn wheat and see if my symptoms come back, which I plan to do eventually. Wheat and gluten aren't inherently evil, and I'd rather eat them if I can.
Reading the challenges of Thanksgiving and Christmas gatherings, one common cross-generational thread appears.
It goes back to whoever first opined--correctly--"the business of America is business". The first generation to discover and understand the problem is, us now "Ricardo, retardo"
Used to be only families like mine, who were tossed will-we-nill-we across 1,000 of miles by the Navy had to contend with the cost and difficulties of travel. Not "over the river and through the woods" but "over the mountain and across the continent.
I hope we all prove to be the generation that prioritizes what 💰 cannot and will not buy, and breaks the powers that make gainful employment in community impossible.
We don't celebrate with extended family, either. Our family members seem to be disproportionately Gamma, malignant narcissist and SJW, so gatherings have been hard for a long time, but Covid and the shot drew lines we simply can't overlook. The last five years' holidays have been so comparatively peaceful and joyful. I am saddened that it has to be this way, but since it IS this way, it's wonderful.
"Yes, it hurts that NONE of my four children want me for Christmas... but this is how I’m taking my revenge…"
What psychological malfunction ruins the mind like this? The causality is off. Wet streets do not cause rain. Rain makes the street wet. How does one, as a parent, not see that neglecting their children is the cause of a lonely Christmas? Is this Boomer able to invest in stocks, which then give dividends? Or is his financial talk of hard work leading to good fruits just noisy bullshit?
"let the dead burry the dead"
A scrape of bowl, a silent cleave
the dough is gone, the night left brief.
Not theft, but proof we sometimes leave
more taste in hunger than in thief.
One thing the boomers were famous for was undermining the holiday traditions of their parents and grandparents so their kids didn't get to enjoy the holidays properly. Then they turn around and whine that they're not in invited to traditions thy didn't help perpetuate?
Revenge indeed.
"the pie-to-person ratio very nearly approaches one." Yes, challenge accepted. They don't call him The Dark Lord for nothing.
If it wasn't for my inlaws "last year boomer and first year gen x" we wouldn't have any traditions. My much older parents are such messes it's hard to describe the cascade of failure that was their tragic lives. To which none was their faults of course.
"Cascade Of Failure" sounds like it could be a Boomer Patrol song.
JHB, if you're reading...
Some Boomers Boom about that children are getting presents and not them.
So some Boomers are asking for their children to give them presents which the Boomer chooses. It is completely irrelevant if one is not in a position to get a present - present must be given or children be damned.
The generation is hopelessly wicked and self-absorbed. The standard Gamma treatment works well, ignore and stay away.
In praise of pie, lard-filled pie crust is a traditional way of getting Vitamin D in northern climates, and it wasn't only a dessert option - just another food on the table. Lard from pastured pigs is second only to cod-liver oil in Vitamin D. One or two pieces of pie a day can count as both a serving of fruit and a supplement.
I enjoy hearing the light hearted stories. The stories remind us that the supreme dark lord is human like the rest of us. I can feel the amusement in your words telling the stories. I like it. But not too many. A supreme dark lord being has a reputation to maintain.
As a child, I never spent one Christmas at home. We always had to shlep our way across the country to visit everyone, to include childless aunts and uncles, to be "fair." Christmas Day is with my wife and children in our home, and anyone in the family is invited to come and stay for as long as they like. Sometimes it's a fun, full, chaotic Christmas, sometimes it's just us. My mother gets a little pissy when we don't "come home" for Christmas, despite the fact my childhood home was 4 moves and almost 25 years ago. We usually spend New Years with my wife's family, which not only includes the family but half the community.
"Let me guess… you’re not going to leave them any inheritance but your debts! Yeah, I’m pretty sure that was already in the cards, Boomer."
1. Out of all the things they own, they think their money is the most valuable thing they have to offer.
2. Everyone owes them a duty, but they owe no duties to others. They have rights, but no one else has any rights that must be respected.
3. They think nothing of using what they owe to others as leverage and inflicting pain on those close to them.
When Solomon had to judge between two prostitutes, the real mom was willing to sacrifice her right to the child so he could live, while the fake mom saw the child's life as a bargaining chip. Funny how Boomers do that to their real children. And then expect full devotion from them.
I was thinking back about familia holiday conflicts and couldn’t remember any, but then I did. It was a fairly violent incident that happened in 1993 at my grandmother’s house.
It was me and my brother.
He was a fairly obnoxious Cowboys fan and I was a Miami Dolphins fan fresh back from my first enlistment. My brother talked a lot of smack during the whole game, but there was snow on the field, fat ass Leon Lett and the rest is history. Brother didn’t take the loss very well nor did he like the shit talking he received from me. Fisticuffs and wrestling ensued. Dad broke it up. Then we had pie.
Gripping.
Husband and I were invited to spend Thanksgiving with a friend from Minnesota/ Wisconsin once, many years ago. It was truly An Event. We have our family traditions, but nothing on the scale of a Minnesota cookie bake. "Forces being mustered" is an apt description.
I was this old when I learned that not all North Americans bake mountains of cookies at Christmas. But maybe Minnesota is where my family gets it from. My maternal grandmother was half Swedish, raised in Minnesota. Though I guess Germans bake cookies, too. Either way, my mom had all the children we knew in the foreign country we lived in over to bake and decorate piles and piles of cookies every year, and every visitor during the month of December was always sent home with a plate full of different kinds of cookies.
Huge cookie bakes before Christmas are a traditional thing in Sweden, not just cookies though: saffron buns, Marsipan candies, ginger bread, Christmas cakes, etc. Some traditional foods and drinks you start preparing at least several weeks in advance, some several months. There is not a Swede who celebrates Christmas in a traditional way who doesn't put on at least a couple of kilos during Christmas week.
Back in the day, my grandma used to spend weeks baking fruitcakes to send to friends and family. That tradition never lasted, though, because the fruit in fruitcake is a horrible lie, and the rest of the mass is simply a concrete brick made of theoretically edible ingredients. She did also do a small mountain of pies but she always worked alone, up until the year she forgot to add salt and seasonings to the pumpkin pie mix.
These days, everybody contributes something, but at our house we always make an extra turkey to ensure adequate leftovers.
Modern food supply chains and preservation methods made fruitcake obsolete. I can appreciate that at one time, it was probably a fun burst of flavor, but there's no point in pretending to enjoy it these days.
You share my opinion about fruitcake, I see. The extra turkey is a great idea! I used to be the pie baker in my family - and a pretty good one, I might add - but I had to quit gluten over a decade ago, and I haven't been able to find or come up with a pie crust recipe I'm happy with since. It is truly tragic. I really need to have a long pie-baking series of experiments until I develop one that meets my standards.
I know someone who's made a good GF pie crust several times, maybe I can get ahold of the recipe.
I'm always up for a good pie crust recipe!
I've gotten the gf crust texture right a couple times. the technique is also important, because I've tried the same recipe again and failed. Another problem is light and fluffy gf dough rips so easy. I've lost my patience transferring and flipping dough on parchment paper to pie pans.
When I've tried it before I've pretty much always just pressed into the pan, which hasn't seemed to make much of a difference in texture, surprisingly. What ingredients do you use?
bob's red mill gf flour, salt, sugar, butter, coconut oil, milk and ice
That's one of the hard things about quitting gluten, so much of our food revolves around baked goods or flour as an ingredient.
I know people make cookies out of just peanut butter, I wonder if it would be possible to do something like that for a pie crust? Maybe add some almond flour or coconut flour to give it the right texture?
You could probably make a decent peanut butter cookie pie crust, but it would limit flavour options as well as shape, because it would have to be pressed into the pan and not rolled out.
I've been able to do cakes, cookies, muffins and even bread fairly decently, but I have very high standards for pie. I'm also reluctant to use most of the gluten-free alternatives; I try to do all whole grain, if I can, and a bit of things like ground flax seed. Most gluten free baking ends up being based on refined starches, and I prefer more nutrients in my food. When I try again, I'll start with freshly ground brown rice flour. Problem is brown rice flour is super hard and a pain to grind and sift. So I need to get a mill attachment first, I think.
Or I could just try Einkorn wheat and see if my symptoms come back, which I plan to do eventually. Wheat and gluten aren't inherently evil, and I'd rather eat them if I can.
Reading the challenges of Thanksgiving and Christmas gatherings, one common cross-generational thread appears.
It goes back to whoever first opined--correctly--"the business of America is business". The first generation to discover and understand the problem is, us now "Ricardo, retardo"
Used to be only families like mine, who were tossed will-we-nill-we across 1,000 of miles by the Navy had to contend with the cost and difficulties of travel. Not "over the river and through the woods" but "over the mountain and across the continent.
I hope we all prove to be the generation that prioritizes what 💰 cannot and will not buy, and breaks the powers that make gainful employment in community impossible.
My Gen X wife approves
Where is the crowd fund for Christmas Ninja?
We don't celebrate with extended family, either. Our family members seem to be disproportionately Gamma, malignant narcissist and SJW, so gatherings have been hard for a long time, but Covid and the shot drew lines we simply can't overlook. The last five years' holidays have been so comparatively peaceful and joyful. I am saddened that it has to be this way, but since it IS this way, it's wonderful.