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If there is any advice men should take away from this site, it is to lead. Follow the hierarchy - God, you, her, kids, everything else.

I got married back when it was fashionable to do the 'equal partnership' thing. So that's what I did. Where it got me came into view in a recent email from the ex. telling me 33 years she bore and raised our kids, worked her fingers to the bone, and I used her all up so there's nothing left of her to give. No mention the more than a decade she didn't have to work, all the cooking and cleaning, the free reign she had with running the household.

In the end, she made the marriage all about her and left. Everything in that email, which was supposed to be a response to coordinate when our daughter arrives in a week, turned out to be about her. Sounds like she read some of this woman's work. Hell, the wording of it reeks of this sort of therapy.

Even with the new woman I see it, but not in a malicious way. When we talk about the future, there's a lot of I, me, my there and very little us. That's fine. Thanks to this site, my eyes are opened, and I see these things long before they'll become an issue. She knows exactly where I stand.

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Was watching a show the other night with the wife. One of the main characters, an accomplished man with a demanding career, is introduced as being late to a court mandated couple's therapy session.

He begs his wife to take him back. Says he's given up drinking and smoking, and even left the home several months ago, at her request (to give her "space"). He asks what else he can do to fix things. They have a 10-ish yr old son, and wants to remain in his life.

She says it's too late. That he just wasn't "present" enough. In fact, during that session he finds out that she's moving another man into what is still this dude's house in a few days. That her new boyfriend loves their son just as much as the father, but will "actually be there for him".

In a later scene, the dude is picking up his son from the home he's been kicked out of. His wife is hanging around with another woman, drinking wine. Her friend casually berates the guy for being a shit husband. Soon to be ex informs him that her new boy toy is there, remodeling his old office.

Later, in a men's support group session, he is told that if he truly ever loved his wife, he'd be happy for her.

Keep in mind that all this stuff is not even tangential relevant to the main story. It's just there for propaganda purposes. My wife and I were speechless.

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