Pretty sure adam stated he wanted to make something dark.
The whole video is an referance to a serial killer who stalked women and murdered them, the baker butcher.
On top of that, he is portrayed as socially awkward around women then wears the same style glasses and hair as the murderer.
That screams freaky omega/gamma to me. I need only smike and talk with women to get smiles and all kinds of attention back, weather working, grocery shopping etc. (being married I choose to do it to let women know there are still friendly and not predatory men out there, but I am a Chrsitian so I should be salt and light in my way)
But a man who desires to make "art" where he stalks and kills, while being hidden and awkward... sounds nothing like a take charge and strong figure.
My dad (gamma) also repeatedly expressed his disapproval that I liked the song "My Boyfriend's Back" when I was a teenager. If I'm not mistaken, the words "hateful" and "disturbing" were thrown around.
I'm contemplating whether situational gammitude caused by hyper religious upbringing/brainwashing that sex out of wedlock is basically the unforgiveable sin, is a thing or not, because I posit that some who present as gammas with regard to "all women are whores" are sigmas whose religious indoctrination made them gammas but that indoctrination was just shattered by reality and they are going through a situational gammitude they can get out of. Otherwise, someone might say, no, only actual gammas would fall for the religious indoctrination to begin with. But I doubt that. I think religion-caused situational gammitude of sigmas is a thing. Because a guy who is not a creep and can move on goes through a gamma like response but doesn't become an incel creep like a gamma. But there is a point where the bubble of religious indoctrination breaks and he realizes women can't stay virgins until marriage and he is disgusted, but then adjusts to reality in a sigma manner.
It's exceedingly rare, but thanks for the new word in the vocabulary today. (perspicacity), and agreed about the Police's song. I didn't like it when I was younger and it was current, and when I heard it with adult ears, I cringed. I was pondering if the Sigma shares the same type of relationship with the female anima as the Alpha, but I refrain from making a conclusive thrust due to the literal point of the piece, as I realized I never attempted to observe this in others, and I could ONLY project my own experiences. All of it is good insight.
If anyone doubts Vox’s SSH and female real nature please go listen to the song Cherry Hill (park) by Billy Joe Royal circa 1960s. It was quite educational for those of my generation.
What do you guys think about Sk8er Boi by Avril Lavigne? Feels like a song made to cater to low status males, as the storyline goes like "Boy liked pretty girl, she did not care for him, she went on to become a single mom and resents not giving him a chance as she sees him being famous with his band".
Seems like a low status dream. The last verse is from the current girlfriend talking down on the first girl and saying how she was able to recognize the hidden potential of the secret king.
Yes that one is most certainly written by a Gamma. I can't imagine any woman feeling the need to rub it in another girls face like that if she genuinely thinks she scored a high value man. If anything she'd want to not draw attention from any past flings or ex-girlfriends because she might see them as a threat.
Ohhhhhh I have one! You guys probably know about it but since no one mentioned it yet I will. And it's kinda funny because the song is all over the Sigma edits on tik tok.
If you look at the lyrics it really looks like oneitis/deification of women and has other gamma tells. Also Mr. Kitty sounds really creppy after you find out he is a convicted sex offender.
My dad (gamma creep, see my previous comments) once got mad at me when I was under the age of ten for innocently asking why we were listening to a song about envy, referring to Jessie's girl. He got so mad and scared me and said, "Shut up."
Re. Sting, the funny thing about him is that even though he is clearly an alpha, a lot of his songs are essentially funny stories about men who can't keep or score with a woman. "Heavy Cloud, No Rain," "Big Lie, Small World," and "Seven Days" come to mind. There's a level of self-awareness and self-deprecating humor that comes out so starkly, it's hard to imagine a real gamma ever performing those.
Sting joins a band, takes it over, jettisons it for a solo career. Former bandmates still like him. Does guest backing vocals on Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing", it becomes their biggest song. Alpha.
I think that's part of what makes the songs so humorous; trying to picture a world in which Sting has to beg a woman for sex or compete with anyone for female attention is a complete non-sequitur.
Sting was asked what he thinks of "Every Breath You Take", believing he would tell them it was written from his POV, instead he said the song is "terrifying". So, yes, it was from the POV of a Gamma stalker.
Fascinating. I was just listening to Stewart Copeland (The Police's drummer) talk with Rick Beato about when/how Sting first joined the band and how they'd approach songwriting. Man, that's really interesting to hear such a comment from the man himself.
Copeland is an interesting character. Like Sting, high IQ. Bravo to Sting, said Sting was "arrogant from birth", which Sting would probably say "no shit".
"You Might Think" by The Cars is about as Gamma as it gets. The video makes it even more obvious.
Was Ric Ocasec a Gamma? Don't think so, he was 6'4", not great looking, first wife was...not pretty. Next two? Very good looking. Guessing Alpha, the way he traded up for new models.
I distinctly remember Roissy/Heartiste referring to Ocasec as a “Super Alpha” years ago. Siring six sons on three different wives is pretty darned Alpha.
That's like saying Accept's "Losers and Winners" is a gamma song because the singer mockingly advises writing a letter to a girl. Why do people want to make everything so binary when it comes to applying the SSH?
Pretty sure adam stated he wanted to make something dark.
The whole video is an referance to a serial killer who stalked women and murdered them, the baker butcher.
On top of that, he is portrayed as socially awkward around women then wears the same style glasses and hair as the murderer.
That screams freaky omega/gamma to me. I need only smike and talk with women to get smiles and all kinds of attention back, weather working, grocery shopping etc. (being married I choose to do it to let women know there are still friendly and not predatory men out there, but I am a Chrsitian so I should be salt and light in my way)
But a man who desires to make "art" where he stalks and kills, while being hidden and awkward... sounds nothing like a take charge and strong figure.
My dad (gamma) also repeatedly expressed his disapproval that I liked the song "My Boyfriend's Back" when I was a teenager. If I'm not mistaken, the words "hateful" and "disturbing" were thrown around.
I think we all just need to recognize that Nickelback is Alpha.
I'm contemplating whether situational gammitude caused by hyper religious upbringing/brainwashing that sex out of wedlock is basically the unforgiveable sin, is a thing or not, because I posit that some who present as gammas with regard to "all women are whores" are sigmas whose religious indoctrination made them gammas but that indoctrination was just shattered by reality and they are going through a situational gammitude they can get out of. Otherwise, someone might say, no, only actual gammas would fall for the religious indoctrination to begin with. But I doubt that. I think religion-caused situational gammitude of sigmas is a thing. Because a guy who is not a creep and can move on goes through a gamma like response but doesn't become an incel creep like a gamma. But there is a point where the bubble of religious indoctrination breaks and he realizes women can't stay virgins until marriage and he is disgusted, but then adjusts to reality in a sigma manner.
After learning about the SSH, I heard Mr. Big's song "To Be With You" again and realized how cringy it is. Total delta/gamma crap.
It's cringy, to be sure, but more Delta than Gamma. The Gamma would not accept her past history with such equanimity.
Ah, I see, that makes sense.
Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t realizing women aren’t special the first step in becoming high status?
It's more a step to understanding reality outside of your delusion bubble, it doesn't necessarily change your status.
It's exceedingly rare, but thanks for the new word in the vocabulary today. (perspicacity), and agreed about the Police's song. I didn't like it when I was younger and it was current, and when I heard it with adult ears, I cringed. I was pondering if the Sigma shares the same type of relationship with the female anima as the Alpha, but I refrain from making a conclusive thrust due to the literal point of the piece, as I realized I never attempted to observe this in others, and I could ONLY project my own experiences. All of it is good insight.
If anyone doubts Vox’s SSH and female real nature please go listen to the song Cherry Hill (park) by Billy Joe Royal circa 1960s. It was quite educational for those of my generation.
What do you guys think about Sk8er Boi by Avril Lavigne? Feels like a song made to cater to low status males, as the storyline goes like "Boy liked pretty girl, she did not care for him, she went on to become a single mom and resents not giving him a chance as she sees him being famous with his band".
Seems like a low status dream. The last verse is from the current girlfriend talking down on the first girl and saying how she was able to recognize the hidden potential of the secret king.
I've always understood Sk8r Boi as a Betty vs Veronica song. Female status competition all the way down.
These songs are marketed to women first, men second if ever. How many young women would like casual access to rock stars?
Yes that one is most certainly written by a Gamma. I can't imagine any woman feeling the need to rub it in another girls face like that if she genuinely thinks she scored a high value man. If anything she'd want to not draw attention from any past flings or ex-girlfriends because she might see them as a threat.
Ohhhhhh I have one! You guys probably know about it but since no one mentioned it yet I will. And it's kinda funny because the song is all over the Sigma edits on tik tok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVx1mJDeUjY Mr. Kitty - After Dark
If you look at the lyrics it really looks like oneitis/deification of women and has other gamma tells. Also Mr. Kitty sounds really creppy after you find out he is a convicted sex offender.
My dad (gamma creep, see my previous comments) once got mad at me when I was under the age of ten for innocently asking why we were listening to a song about envy, referring to Jessie's girl. He got so mad and scared me and said, "Shut up."
He sounds a bit like my dad. Mentally unstable and Gamma to the core.
Re. Sting, the funny thing about him is that even though he is clearly an alpha, a lot of his songs are essentially funny stories about men who can't keep or score with a woman. "Heavy Cloud, No Rain," "Big Lie, Small World," and "Seven Days" come to mind. There's a level of self-awareness and self-deprecating humor that comes out so starkly, it's hard to imagine a real gamma ever performing those.
Oh wow , thanks for this. His music is cool and has a nice vibe. I heard of him and saw him Dune but never listened to his music.
I listened to his music but never realized that was him in Dune until this comment.
Yes. Ten sumners tales is full of SSH examples. Shape of my heart is a prime example of a sigma song.
Sting joins a band, takes it over, jettisons it for a solo career. Former bandmates still like him. Does guest backing vocals on Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing", it becomes their biggest song. Alpha.
I think that's part of what makes the songs so humorous; trying to picture a world in which Sting has to beg a woman for sex or compete with anyone for female attention is a complete non-sequitur.
Sting was asked what he thinks of "Every Breath You Take", believing he would tell them it was written from his POV, instead he said the song is "terrifying". So, yes, it was from the POV of a Gamma stalker.
Fascinating. I was just listening to Stewart Copeland (The Police's drummer) talk with Rick Beato about when/how Sting first joined the band and how they'd approach songwriting. Man, that's really interesting to hear such a comment from the man himself.
Copeland is an interesting character. Like Sting, high IQ. Bravo to Sting, said Sting was "arrogant from birth", which Sting would probably say "no shit".
"You Might Think" by The Cars is about as Gamma as it gets. The video makes it even more obvious.
Was Ric Ocasec a Gamma? Don't think so, he was 6'4", not great looking, first wife was...not pretty. Next two? Very good looking. Guessing Alpha, the way he traded up for new models.
I distinctly remember Roissy/Heartiste referring to Ocasec as a “Super Alpha” years ago. Siring six sons on three different wives is pretty darned Alpha.
Mr. Brightside by the Killers. That's gamma.
Animals was good song, not gamma. Maybe because the video had the stalker thing going on it threw some people?
That's like saying Accept's "Losers and Winners" is a gamma song because the singer mockingly advises writing a letter to a girl. Why do people want to make everything so binary when it comes to applying the SSH?