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Bfield^4's avatar

"In a converged multi-et al society, in which every divergent opinion, or even unwanted statement of undeniable fact, is interpreted as an attack and a fundamental disqualification, it is totally impossible for any writer who happens to be outside the Officially Approved window to receive any meaningful input on his work from his nominal peers."

Vox's posts about DeepSeek and writing got me intrigued, so I started experimenting with AI and my own writing.

For those who haven't tried, it's astonishing really. Total game changer. Never would have thought to find such an thoroughly enjoyable collaborator and critic. "My new best friend" indeed. The point, which Vox has made before is that, "what is inappropriate to use as a crutch can be extremely effective if utilized as a force-multiplier."

A tool is a tool.

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Mile High Bear's avatar

Wow, this AI gets it. That Final Note is dead on, as the AI simply nails it. Impressive.

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DH Slammer's avatar

How many fingers does the Dark lord posses?

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Castalia's avatar

As many as he needs, obviously.

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Mercian Ceorl's avatar

Entered the primer - "Please provide a pair of first person narratives of people attending the dentist the first has an 80iq the second a 160iq" into AI- pure hilarity - the first character got a sticker, the second harangued the dentist with unsolicited professional advice.

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ScuzzaMan's avatar

Umberto Eco? I bet that felt good.

I liked the 5 (non-thumb) fingers on the left hand of the first dark lord pic. A deft hint at the AI generation and the old six-fingered giants.

EDIT: I forgot the sinister = left thing.

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No Name's avatar

Sorry if this is too off topic. I really like both Vox's and Lovecraft's stories. Robert E. Howard is OK too. If the AI generated a correct text I should probably check out Umberto Eco and Clark Ashton Smith. Any recommendations on where to start?

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Vox Day's avatar

To be honest, Howard was a big surprise to me. I would not have regarded him as one of my influences, especially not over Tolkien, Tanith Lee, or a number of other authors.

For Eco, start with The Name of the Rose and Baudalino. And stick with it, he's difficult, but very rewarding.

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taignobias's avatar

I can see how it might think that, though. I find your way of describing the less-than-beautiful closer to his than the others; it's got a straightforward honesty to it.

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Richard Metallium IV's avatar

this's way cool, Vox.

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Jefferson Kim's avatar

Your accurate observations of human nature, SSH, and geopolitics provides a level of realism into your characters and world building that is easy to see for those familiar with your fiction and non-fiction. And the inclusion of ancient philosophers like Aristotle and Aquinas.

This creates intelligent and believable characters in your fantasy writing for those of us who are also observant of real world human interactions and find dealing with the unintelligent annoying.

Compare this with gamma projectionist that write completely unbelievable stories or main characters insufferably annoying you hope they die. Or women characters who are just men with boobs. Or when the main plot devices are the main characters repeatedly making low IQ decisions.

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Jefferson Kim's avatar

More specifically, a mere couple words from a gamma posting in social media is enough to raise alarms and make me start gagging. Now imagine a gamma writer who attempts to make their gamma main character the hero of the story with all their same gamma mannerisms. 🤮

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BodrevBodrev's avatar

The interesting thing about gamma fiction is that the gamma apparently can't even imagine not being a gamma. He doesn't dream of being a sigma, he just dreams of being treated as one.

As a result everything they write is just totally inconsistent. The main character still has all the gamma idiosyncrasies, but he's treated by all the side characters like those are actually cool. Read some women's comments on Rothfuss or Robert Jordan on Goodreads. They sense something's off, they just can't put a finger on it.

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Mile High Bear's avatar

Reading your comment, Robert Jordan was the first real-world example of a gamma turning the whiny little gamma into the main character. So Jordan's Rand Al'Thor. Also immediately thought G. Rape-Rape Martin and Tyrion Lannister.

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Soljin's avatar

Jim Butcher's "The Dresden Files" come to mind.

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Vox Day's avatar

We don't have to imagine. We have John Scalzi and Patrick Rothfuss.

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