I highly doubt im an alpha or a sigma but i know i can get a new gf in 8-12 weeks if my wife decides to leave me. She played her cards once and i said “do it”. This was years ago and we are happily married
It's sad that a deltas unwillingness/inability to end a relationship can be what dooms it.
Taking the leap of faith and leaving even when there aren't any obvious prospects available takes courage and initiative. Two traits that deltas are now known for.
Counter-intuitively, your prospects will likely improve as a result.
My Brother is here visiting us now on the island, and I've shared with him the biggest issue in our marriage is that we don't *NEED* each other to be complete, happy and whole. I'm guessing that 95% of relationships, particularly including my parents, are Codependent. Like one of the parties is a planet and the other is a moon in orbit. We are two whole planets.
We decided to rotate Together around the Sun (God). But, sometimes, with massive external pressures pushing on us, we can have the thought of "I was doing Amazing on my own."
Our son changes that, but more for her than for me.
At the very top the bear tactic is to atop looking around and wife her up. Nor because there are not options. There will always be options. But because you cannot build a life together you choose to ignore the options. a
A wise woman will build up a family and you will have peace, a foolish woman will destroy the family with her own hand. Seen both happen. Choose on wisdom. But choose.
I became convinced many years ago that too much optionality is also a killer on getting started climbing rungs on an economic ladder and gaining experience and skills relating to jobs done.
Yes, life is risky, but in reality, there is only one way to mitigate that risk that matters: accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and being born again of water and the Spirit. Only then are the risks of this life seen in their proper perspective. Everything, and I mean everything, in this current life is temporary and fleeting. Remember that if you are thinking of trading your eternal riches in Christ Jesus for something that in a moment is gone, no matter how much enjoyment it seems to give. Hold fast to what remains, even if it is difficult or even painful, and by offering yourself as a living sacrifice (Romans 12:1-2), you will discover God's good and perfect will for you.
One thing that is certain is that a high-value man is a complete package for an attractive woman. He fulfills the woman's dual mating strategy. This, therefore, answers the woman's question: is he the best that I got?
At the lower SSH rank, deltas and gammas provide the beta bucks side of the equation for women. However, all is not lost, as VD always says the SSH is very fractal. If a delta accepts the game for what it is and can lower his expectations, he will start attracting women who find him attractive, thereby widening his pool of options. This will make him the alpha among other deltas who are unaware of the game.
A cultivated Delta will not be short of options. Contrary to what the MGTOW losers will claim, Alphas and Bravos aren’t wasting their time ploughing through all 5 and 6s who are within the Delta’s reach.
A Delta who knows how to “play the game” or at the very least is sufficiently self aware to have taken steps to increase his value, will be seen as a Chad by the shy plain Jane types who never got a look on with the Alphas and Bravos.
Girls would love to meet a decent, competent guy. And it's simple to look great in comparison with the defeatist losers. When a MGTOW or a gamma reeks of the stinking swamp, a delta who showers, a delta who has a job, a delta who has his solitary hobbies, then that delta, he is a great catch.
I really don’t know, but it appears that high status men are best able to separate women into consumer goods and capital assets, and he treats his women accordingly.
I've wondered about this, too. And the simplest explanation is that it's probably a necessity given the amount of attention garnered by women. An example I can think of is Matt Rife. His big scandal is that he was dating 6 or 7 women at the same time. One was a Podcaster and invited the other women on to her show and they all set up a group chat with him. BUT a sizeable amount of his comedy act is being a flirtatious rogue. He jokes about different zip codes and fans will throw panties at him. If that guy asks you on a date, why would you assume your the only one? But I'm sure women don't mind... at first. They probably approach him and it's like they offered?
As a Delta-ish guy, the thought of two timing would fill me with too much anxiety. I recall when I was internet dating 15 years ago I had a big problem with having dates with multiple women at once even though there was no commitment involved.
Its not "two-timing" unless you've promised to be exclusive. Women certainly don't see things as 1 or 0, which is why a coffee "date" is much easier to score than a dinner date.
Yes, and my fear that I would somehow be “caught” and this would have some kind of repercussion was misplaced and irrational. If anything the perceived competition would increase my value. Unless the woman is a complete nutcase in which case it’s best to find out asap.
Of course, and the higher status you are the more options and the more discerning your filter can be.
Of course, women are the same in that regard it is just their calculations weigh inputs differently: "I'm looking for a man in finance ... trust fund, ... 6'5'', blue eyes."
While a trust fund might be nice in a wife, a career in finance would probably have been a net-negative and 6'5'', well I like tall women, but 6'5'' is excessively tall.
I sense this is backwards. High status men recognize that most women treat men as assets at the end of the day, and are able to adjust their attitude toward the “fairer sex” accordingly.
There was a time initially where I thought one woman was just what I wanted... when that crashed and burnt I still believed it, kind of... when the next three crashed and burnt I gave up even trying to be in a serious monogamous relationship. I figured if some super-space-alien-hot woman came along, then maybe I'd settle down, but as such creatures only exist in comic books mostly, I wasn't holding my breath. After a while though, I absolutely got bored of the revolving door of women I went through. It got to the point where I honestly just sat down with myself and wondered if this was the best challenge life had to offer, because at this point, bedding a good looking woman wasn't even a challenge anymore. I then realised marrying and making children and having a functional family was definitely a much more impressive challenge. After THAT crashed and burnt too, the unthinkable happened. I found God was real and that my protozoic initial feelings on relationships when I was young were correct. One woman and a family with her IS the way. The only way that matters or makes sense. By then I simply assumed my chance at that was nil. I had seen too much, experienced too much, and it would be impossible for me to settle with some good girl that went to church every week. So God provided instead, and now I have finally fond that Venusian Girl after all. Three children later, I can absolutely tell anyone unsure, that it certainly beats all the pretty bodies I had intimate knowledge of for fun, many of whose names I genuinely struggle to recall, and in some cases even the whole experience with them is blurry at best. Making a family is absolutely a challenge that makes bedding hot women look like a trivial game in comparison. And the rewards of it are also inversely proportional. Marriage and children are the ideal for every man that is still a man, and for every woman that is still a woman. Unless you're one of those rare few who has a higher purpose by being truly dedicated to God, everything else is at best just a distraction while you wait to die.
I’ve had a very similar life path. The revolving door to the bedroom is fun for a while, but it eventually loses its charms. I’ve forgotten more names and faces than I remember. Ultimately, none of it is fulfilling. The only true path for a man is marriage and children with a good woman.
For those guys that are unsure about marriage or unsure of themselves with women in general, don’t overthink it. They’re just women. If it doesn’t work out with the current one, there’s essentially a never ending supply of the next one.
Like Mike Damone says: You have to act like you don’t care if she comes, stays, lays or prays. Your toes are still tapping.
MGTOWs are less that liberals. Liberals occasionally behave as adults, vile as they may be. MGTOW may have begun puberty, and I wonder if they aim to mature and eventually become fully grown adults.
All the [become X] grifting & coaching crashes on this.
An abundance mentality is self-protective, so long as there’s abundance. That kind of appeal isn’t consciously generated. Recognized and accentuated, maybe, but innate. Doors just open.
I wonder if it reaches another form of communication barrier.
There's a girl tree?!
I highly doubt im an alpha or a sigma but i know i can get a new gf in 8-12 weeks if my wife decides to leave me. She played her cards once and i said “do it”. This was years ago and we are happily married
It's sad that a deltas unwillingness/inability to end a relationship can be what dooms it.
Taking the leap of faith and leaving even when there aren't any obvious prospects available takes courage and initiative. Two traits that deltas are now known for.
Counter-intuitively, your prospects will likely improve as a result.
Alphas on the other hand just have to decide which side girl to promote.
My Brother is here visiting us now on the island, and I've shared with him the biggest issue in our marriage is that we don't *NEED* each other to be complete, happy and whole. I'm guessing that 95% of relationships, particularly including my parents, are Codependent. Like one of the parties is a planet and the other is a moon in orbit. We are two whole planets.
We decided to rotate Together around the Sun (God). But, sometimes, with massive external pressures pushing on us, we can have the thought of "I was doing Amazing on my own."
Our son changes that, but more for her than for me.
At the very top the bear tactic is to atop looking around and wife her up. Nor because there are not options. There will always be options. But because you cannot build a life together you choose to ignore the options. a
A wise woman will build up a family and you will have peace, a foolish woman will destroy the family with her own hand. Seen both happen. Choose on wisdom. But choose.
I became convinced many years ago that too much optionality is also a killer on getting started climbing rungs on an economic ladder and gaining experience and skills relating to jobs done.
Yes, life is risky, but in reality, there is only one way to mitigate that risk that matters: accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and being born again of water and the Spirit. Only then are the risks of this life seen in their proper perspective. Everything, and I mean everything, in this current life is temporary and fleeting. Remember that if you are thinking of trading your eternal riches in Christ Jesus for something that in a moment is gone, no matter how much enjoyment it seems to give. Hold fast to what remains, even if it is difficult or even painful, and by offering yourself as a living sacrifice (Romans 12:1-2), you will discover God's good and perfect will for you.
One thing that is certain is that a high-value man is a complete package for an attractive woman. He fulfills the woman's dual mating strategy. This, therefore, answers the woman's question: is he the best that I got?
At the lower SSH rank, deltas and gammas provide the beta bucks side of the equation for women. However, all is not lost, as VD always says the SSH is very fractal. If a delta accepts the game for what it is and can lower his expectations, he will start attracting women who find him attractive, thereby widening his pool of options. This will make him the alpha among other deltas who are unaware of the game.
A cultivated Delta will not be short of options. Contrary to what the MGTOW losers will claim, Alphas and Bravos aren’t wasting their time ploughing through all 5 and 6s who are within the Delta’s reach.
A Delta who knows how to “play the game” or at the very least is sufficiently self aware to have taken steps to increase his value, will be seen as a Chad by the shy plain Jane types who never got a look on with the Alphas and Bravos.
Girls would love to meet a decent, competent guy. And it's simple to look great in comparison with the defeatist losers. When a MGTOW or a gamma reeks of the stinking swamp, a delta who showers, a delta who has a job, a delta who has his solitary hobbies, then that delta, he is a great catch.
True!
Correct. Well said.
This is a question and not a statement.
I really don’t know, but it appears that high status men are best able to separate women into consumer goods and capital assets, and he treats his women accordingly.
Is this valid?
Is it too harsh to say that a mistress is the highest class of prostitute?
A royal courtesan ranks higher in Western culture. An example is Madame Marie de Pompadour.
I've wondered about this, too. And the simplest explanation is that it's probably a necessity given the amount of attention garnered by women. An example I can think of is Matt Rife. His big scandal is that he was dating 6 or 7 women at the same time. One was a Podcaster and invited the other women on to her show and they all set up a group chat with him. BUT a sizeable amount of his comedy act is being a flirtatious rogue. He jokes about different zip codes and fans will throw panties at him. If that guy asks you on a date, why would you assume your the only one? But I'm sure women don't mind... at first. They probably approach him and it's like they offered?
As a Delta-ish guy, the thought of two timing would fill me with too much anxiety. I recall when I was internet dating 15 years ago I had a big problem with having dates with multiple women at once even though there was no commitment involved.
Its not "two-timing" unless you've promised to be exclusive. Women certainly don't see things as 1 or 0, which is why a coffee "date" is much easier to score than a dinner date.
Yes, and my fear that I would somehow be “caught” and this would have some kind of repercussion was misplaced and irrational. If anything the perceived competition would increase my value. Unless the woman is a complete nutcase in which case it’s best to find out asap.
Of course, and the higher status you are the more options and the more discerning your filter can be.
Of course, women are the same in that regard it is just their calculations weigh inputs differently: "I'm looking for a man in finance ... trust fund, ... 6'5'', blue eyes."
While a trust fund might be nice in a wife, a career in finance would probably have been a net-negative and 6'5'', well I like tall women, but 6'5'' is excessively tall.
Well, men have different criteria for women obviously.
The hot/crazy axis is the best and simplest system I’ve seen for ranking women.
I think in current year nomenclature, I would recommend Keeper, Sleeper and Sweeper.
Women cost a lot. Some of them are worth the headache and the upkeep.
Is this view different from how men are expendable, and some are worth enough to be landowners and officers?
I sense this is backwards. High status men recognize that most women treat men as assets at the end of the day, and are able to adjust their attitude toward the “fairer sex” accordingly.
For me, yes.
There was a time initially where I thought one woman was just what I wanted... when that crashed and burnt I still believed it, kind of... when the next three crashed and burnt I gave up even trying to be in a serious monogamous relationship. I figured if some super-space-alien-hot woman came along, then maybe I'd settle down, but as such creatures only exist in comic books mostly, I wasn't holding my breath. After a while though, I absolutely got bored of the revolving door of women I went through. It got to the point where I honestly just sat down with myself and wondered if this was the best challenge life had to offer, because at this point, bedding a good looking woman wasn't even a challenge anymore. I then realised marrying and making children and having a functional family was definitely a much more impressive challenge. After THAT crashed and burnt too, the unthinkable happened. I found God was real and that my protozoic initial feelings on relationships when I was young were correct. One woman and a family with her IS the way. The only way that matters or makes sense. By then I simply assumed my chance at that was nil. I had seen too much, experienced too much, and it would be impossible for me to settle with some good girl that went to church every week. So God provided instead, and now I have finally fond that Venusian Girl after all. Three children later, I can absolutely tell anyone unsure, that it certainly beats all the pretty bodies I had intimate knowledge of for fun, many of whose names I genuinely struggle to recall, and in some cases even the whole experience with them is blurry at best. Making a family is absolutely a challenge that makes bedding hot women look like a trivial game in comparison. And the rewards of it are also inversely proportional. Marriage and children are the ideal for every man that is still a man, and for every woman that is still a woman. Unless you're one of those rare few who has a higher purpose by being truly dedicated to God, everything else is at best just a distraction while you wait to die.
Didn't learn much humility or restrain the urge to talk about yourself and how awesome you are with women, I see.
If that is what you got from my comment I would say your bitterness and gammincel radiation count is beyond what the atomic analyser can measure.
Then you'd be wrong. It was a blatant humblebrag.
Ok, incel.
"It must be nice to have a wife and children."
The Alpha of my friend group described something similar.
Broke up with his first wife because she was off trying to be CEO lady and was never home.
Spent a couple of years screwing his way through tinder.
I asked him what made him give it up and settle with his now 2nd wife.
He said that it was like having a second job and he got bored of it.
The Chad to rake to penitent to husband path is the most underrated alpha plot line. New challenge unlocked is such an alpha motive
I’ve had a very similar life path. The revolving door to the bedroom is fun for a while, but it eventually loses its charms. I’ve forgotten more names and faces than I remember. Ultimately, none of it is fulfilling. The only true path for a man is marriage and children with a good woman.
For those guys that are unsure about marriage or unsure of themselves with women in general, don’t overthink it. They’re just women. If it doesn’t work out with the current one, there’s essentially a never ending supply of the next one.
Like Mike Damone says: You have to act like you don’t care if she comes, stays, lays or prays. Your toes are still tapping.
Marriage and children are the ideal for true Christian men but divorce laws and hypergamy make it a real risk for most normal, ie delta dudes
MGTOWs are liberals. Remember that.
MGTOWs are less that liberals. Liberals occasionally behave as adults, vile as they may be. MGTOW may have begun puberty, and I wonder if they aim to mature and eventually become fully grown adults.
Certainly. But the risks are nowhere nearly as high as they are portrayed by the cowardly Gamma crowd that retreats to anime and porn.
Life is risk. Bet wisely.
All the [become X] grifting & coaching crashes on this.
An abundance mentality is self-protective, so long as there’s abundance. That kind of appeal isn’t consciously generated. Recognized and accentuated, maybe, but innate. Doors just open.
I wonder if it reaches another form of communication barrier.
Life is risky for everyone, only the risks differ, and not much.
A man takes sensible precautions, he don't hide under the bed.