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The Candid Clodhopper's avatar

Women actively choosing to not have children is far more destructive than many in the West realize, especially at the individual level where there are fewer stats and obvious societal implications.

There's a local middle-aged woman who had decided not to have kids. Became an animal horder, filling both inherited houses with cats and dogs. Dozens of the animals were found dead. In a pile inside one of the houses. The combined stench of death and waste was so bad, police could smell it from outside the houses. Full hazmat.

Demons love to fill a void.

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I’ve watched this play out up close. A colleague (early thirties now) grew up the “poor friend” among Vegas casino heirs, US-born to immigrant parents, insecure about her looks, not promiscuous. In her late teens she dated a wealthy, foreign classmate who strung her along for six years without marriage. After she left him at 26, she assumed that independence, a solid career in commercial real estate, and a high income would attract the most desirable men.

Instead, I witnessed her slide into the standard single-girl cycle (lower sexual standards, dating brokers or douchey frat bros who had something to prove) and then wondered why none ever wanted to commit.

I told her bluntly, through the sociosexual lens: the men she’s going after (top earners/top status) usually choose young and early; the “pond” she’s fishing in is mostly commitment-averse, and the ones that share her values have already been spoken for. Her best real shot in landing a values-aligned man is someone who did commit, was taken for granted by his wife, got cheated on, and is now divorced, but still wants a family and a wife. She was sad when I told her this, but agreed. She even shared with her other perpetually single “boss girl” friends that they’d “missed the boat” on meeting the right guys.

One more data point: shortly after becoming single, she had instant chemistry with a man, but they didn’t last. She found out that he was also talking with another girl (they were not yet exclusive) and broke it off. He ended up continuing to date the other girl who was an unemployed, supposedly “crazy” girl, and they have stayed together for nearly four years.

After the first year or so, she couldn’t process why he stayed with the “crazy” girl when she was such a catch. She secretly hoped they would break up, and he would come back to her. She couldn’t understand why someone would want to be with a girl who offered “nothing” to a man while she was educated and successful.

I told her it’s simple. She doesn’t understand men, and what they want. Men are easy. They just want someone who is pretty and kind. That’s it. The metrics she was using to grade herself were not the factors men use. That’s why it doesn’t make sense.

A bit of a success epilogue. She is currently dating a man (probably delta but successful and attractive). They live in the same apartment complex and saw each other for over a year. Eventually, she was brave enough to leave a note on his windshield expressing her interest in him. They’re together to this day. Thankfully, she stepped out of her comfort zone and took the initiative, because he stated that he always noticed her but assumed she was out of his league and wouldn’t be interested in him.

Ultimately, this anecdote shows that women may not be disinclined in pursuing a family. It’s just that, like my friend, they equate education and employment as the two key factors to their success in landing the most high quality mate.

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