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Uranium Griffin's avatar

Do you think that the 'it exists if I can imagine it' line of reasoning extends from Plato, and do you think that the origin of this line of reasoning in Plato can be partially understood from his SSH status?

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Were Puppy's avatar

Dies barrista mouse have a phantom man bun?

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The Kurgan's avatar

This is why it is estimated some 60% of women will be single in the next ten years or so (from memory). Phantology!

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Enwar's avatar

Many modern women hate the male sex and see them as predators. This is because with the undermining of the institution of mariage, the social contract between men and women has been broken.

Maybe marriage will regain the status it once had, as the youngest generation turns away from casual sex and dating.

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info1234's avatar

What is the worse is actually being falsely accused of sexual harassment by a Cluster B woman after asking her out rather than her simply saying no.

In normal situations this doesn't happen.

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Anthony Voci's avatar

Years ago I purchased a used copy of Dr, Rabbi Abraham Cohen's EVERYMANS TALMUD 1936, and on the inside of the cover was a handwritten note to Kai, "If you think it, you can do it. Uncle Marv." An apt example of Phantology and the unbound transgressive psychology of Rabbinic Talmudic Judaism.

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Julie C's avatar

"But phantology is a false philosophy. Our imaginations do not dictate or determine reality."

But how can I manifest my demands to the universe if I can't dictate reality?

/sarc

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AML's avatar

I never really understood this until now, despite seeing it repeatedly. It's basically Schrodinger's Girlfriend. Once they've collapsed the wave-function they'll be confronted with the woman's lack of interest so they prefer not knowing.

The fantasy, of course, is that "something" could happen to change the odds if they just wait. The reality is that, given who they are, nothing is going to ever happen.

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Masked Menace's avatar

Not asking her out keeps the fantasy intact.

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AML's avatar

Exactly.

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BBL1986's avatar

Poor Doof is projecting; thinking Stoke is just like him. He wouldn't ask the girl out because by doing so he might be rejected; and if he was it would hurt and might even rupture the delusion bubble he lives in. And that would be terrible for his self-esteem.

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Coffee Guy Chris's avatar

Reality is a scary thing for most people. I am certain the Dark Lord has plenty of experience observing an obvious fundamental truth that a person denies or ignores, not because they can’t comprehend it, but because doing so would require accepting Reality in favor of Fantasy.

Allow me to offer a Delta perspective: Our favorite form of Fantasy is the “if only” story. “If only” the circumstances were how I want them to be, I could get what I want. It’s a circular form of reasoning that higher-status men often find irritating, because we are literally talking about nonexistent hypotheticals based in our own preference. Accepting that Reality has no place for these preferences forces the Delta to reckon with his own limitations and shortcomings, which most don’t want to do. Reality requires reckoning, which is opposed to Fantasy, but since Fantasy satisfies our preferences, most choose it every single time.

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Balkan Yankee's avatar

To be a gamma is to be a secret king. To be a secret king is to be a monomaniac. To be a monomaniac is to be partially insane.

That all makes sense.

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Jefferson Kim's avatar

It all comes down to Plato vs Aristotle as Vox Day repeatedly states. We either choose to live the best we can in response to the world as it exists, or forcibly impose the mind's machinations in opposition to observable Reality.

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Coffee Guy Chris's avatar

Living in Reality requires acceptance of one’s limitations, including the things that will never happen in a million years. Most men prefer not to admit that they never in a million years would ever have a shot with the 10/10 supermodel, but their preference doesn’t change that part of Reality.

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Uncouth Barbarian's avatar

Much better to ask and stop wasting energy or thoughts on a woman than to continue orbiting. Just like a satellite, it takes energy to stay in a woman's orbit. Either crash or take her as your own.

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BodrevBodrev's avatar

I doubt Doof ever made it into a woman's orbit to escape from.

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The Kurgan's avatar

Aaaaaakkkshaully…. It takes NO energy to remain in orbit. You need to apply some rocket power to escape the gravity well or crash and burn.

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Uncouth Barbarian's avatar

Oh. Yup, didn’t think that analogy through. Thanks for reminding me.

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Mr. Berenstain's avatar

"Our imaginations do not dictate or determine reality."

Yes. Always had an issue with the viewpoint of "perception is reality." That's total nonsense, reality doesn't care what your perceptions are.

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Nick's avatar

Your actions however are shaped by your perception, and in turn influence reality. That's the power behind "morale" for example.

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J B's avatar

I agree. The saying should be "perception is your false reality"

But I don't think it would catch on

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The Kurgan's avatar

One must test things!

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J Scott's avatar

Phantology is an excellent term.

Describes most gammas philosophy. Also most women's academic philosophy.

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ScuzzaMan's avatar

"... risking the moment of truth and learning whether or not the hot redhead is willing to go out with him."

A kind of Schroedinger's maus.

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Zach Foster's avatar

Everyone worships a God with their actions. And a person's spiritual beliefs are a reflection of their state of mind. For instance, their are those who are comfortable with a living paradox, God, or not. This may have correlation with SSH.

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