I've been putting empath with capital letters in my CV for several years now, because I know HR retarded girls are going to fixate on it, and I just want to see what kind of idiocy they are going to spew. Do that, as long as you are able to keep a straight face, you're in for a show.
Not really gaslighting, just the less you talk about work with an HR girl the better it goes, like every conversation with a woman about things she doesn't understand. So I put Empath, inj-whatever-personality, world traveler, Scorpio, right below my name. The more it looks like a dating profile the better, the only thing that will be relayed upstream is the professional title anyway. Goal is not trolling but talking about bullshit for the better part of the interview and then make an excuse and bail when she starts going technical. As long as you made a good impression, she'll arrange a meeting with a higher up. Counter-intuitively for deltas, talking about work with an HR girl doesn't help their case. A cokehead can get himself a meeting with a higher up for a management position. Happens all the time.
As for trolling, I don't troll the HR girls, but I can't resist trolling a gamma or a delta manager if present. I just talk about star signs or something like that with the girl, really gets the deltas and gammas mad. The girl's always in on it, so it's hard not to do it, really.
Lack of female empathy, oh i remember counting the ways as a small child. Fond remembrances of running into the house at age nine, freaking out because the neighborhood bully threw a rock at me outside which bounced off the railroad tie next to our home's rock gravel driveway, and hit my head. Bleeding from my scalp, I touched the bleeding area with my hand and saw blood pooling in my palm, ran headlong screaming/crying back into the house, at which point my mother, watching some daytime soap opera circa 1987, promptly said, "Stop being a F*#k!ng pussy and go wash it off in the sink!"
Crouching over the sink washing blood off of my scalp, I marveled at her cavalier attitude and received a good solid dose of reality: I really was being a "pu$$y" about the whole thing and needed to man up. Last thing she said to me was, "You should've just washed it off with the garden hose in the back yard. I'll have your Dad yell for you when dinner's ready."
Nowadays, she just smiles at my five and ten yr. old daughters and permits all sorts of mischief. She has become Grandma. My girls will have no idea who she really was back then and will likely treat their kids with the same sincerity when their time comes, which is a good thing. Men are positively shaped by the callous women in their midst. Wouldn't have it any other way.
I have to agree (not that you were asking for confirmation!). In my experience, genuine empathy is rarer than most people think. And what surprises people most is how often it feels absent in medicine; not always because doctors are bad people, but because the training and the pace can sand it down. When you do meet a doctor who leads with empathy, it's most often comes from having personally brushed up against vulnerability; illness, loss, or a hard life lesson that made their human side impossible to ignore.
And a sociology prof at Purdue did a study about 20 years ago and discovered that 50% of rape complaints are later retracted, without any discussion of what percentage of those were retracted due to the police confronting the accuser with proof of a false accusation.
What really gets me is this -- why are NONE of the women who make probably false accusations EVER peosecuted?
Not true. Rape is the most falsely reported crime (over 50% false reporting rate vs 3% for almost all other types of crimes), yet at the same time, also the most underreported felony.
Over the years, I've chatted online with several rape victims and they literally don't even care about the idea that some other woman will probably get raped due to remaining silent.
I’m glad Vox addressed this article. It is so insane that normal people over the age of 35 will think it parody. The insanity that has been drilled into the brains of modern woman is beyond suicidal. Can civilization survive with these non humans running around?
Bravo doesn't have to understand the mind of his Alpha. Some don't. He just has to be committed to seeking Alpha's approval and adapting his behavior to Alpha's standards.
A good Bravo develops a good working model of his Alpha's wants. You don't need empathy to do that. Just like most everyone can use a smartphone without understanding the underlying code and operating system. Performance does not require understanding.
Some of that is just a function of time spent together. Alpha is busy running around making strategic choices. Bravo is there hearing the complaints of the troops and seeing their performance.
It doesn't take empathy to remember what people are saying and track what they did. Though Bravo can probably develop a practical empathy over time. In the absence of talent, experience and collected wisdom will have to do.
I thought my dad was a “hell raiser alpha” but after putting his publicly available info into a couple AI’s, they insist he’s a sigma. Steps in to alpha leadership roles for company restructuring, post-restructuring they reliably boot him within three years or so. No long term friendships and doesn’t seem to miss them. Pursues own ends to the total disregard of others. Also super charming, gets all the women, and hugely successful at accomplishing his goals. Handsome, charming, motivated, accomplished, wealthy.
He’s also probably a sociopath.
Seems to genuinely not have a framework for other people having minds, but can charm and manipulate them based on an abstract understanding of what their behavior shows about their motivations.
By contrast, my husband is a sigma who does have empathy. Similar behavioral patterns, although longer tolerance for situational alpha roles (7 years versus 3). But I think the lack of/empathy informs what they each chose as their various ends/missions, how they go about achieving them, who if anyone is along for the ride, and their awareness of and ability to tune in and care about whether and how what they’re doing impacts others.
The biggest difference in the empathy side is that my husband feels bad, albeit confused since he never wanted to be anyone’s leader, when he goes all “mission accomplished, moving on” and leaves people feeling abandoned and sad. My dad is so unaware of the impact of his behavior unless the other person’s reaction is directly operational to him, that he generally keeps using an organization for his own ends until he gets kicked out. But he always gets picked up by the next thing for carrying out a similar restructuring operation. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him feel bad about anything.
Which is to say, that I don’t think empathy is necessary to the sigma behavioral pattern.
Empathy, like many qualities, exists on a gradient. A Bravo would have some empathy, possibly more than most, but might have to concentrate on it more than for an Alpha where it flowed more naturally.
Grok cites Vox for this word (!), and it especially likes how the Greek prefix Chryso (golden) is a mod to the Golden Rule, and overall rates it stronger than Propathy. Vox is the John Henry of neologisms.
That's it! The word escaped me. In the meantime, I ran this by DeepSeek, Gemini and Grok, and they all came up with the word "propathy." I'm gonna run this word by them, it'll be interesting to read their responses to this.
Yes, but it's not natural and automatic like an alpha. It requires specific consideration. When you stop to think about it, it washes over you. I try to consider it more as I get older, because it reveals a lot of ulterior motives that I normally wouldn't tick to, like realizing that the person feels smug and self-satisfied, revealing that they were working towards the bad outcome rather than trying to stop it..
"this guy gets it" versus "this guy is oblivious" create a very natural breakpoint. The Bravo can support some of the Alpha's strategic aims and herd the group in the right direction, while it's beyond the self-focused Delta.
I was about to say that when this woman cried "rape," at least no innocent men were harmed in the process. Sometimes women do that as a cry for attention and sympathy; it's still awful, but the social impact is minimal.
Then it dawned on me that there likely *is* some guy who she wants to make suffer, that people who know her will automatically assume is the perpetrator, and who will suffer social consequences without the option of ever being granted a fair trial or to combat the whisper campaign in any way. Which, if that turns out to be the case, is utterly diabolical.
“Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”
― Hillary Rodham Clinton
If I'm reading the correct story, she claims she was raped all night by six men in a Vegas hotel. So likely fiction.
Well, yeah, six alpha chads no doubt. Not one, not two, but six, they couldn't control themselves because she just that doggone hot, y'know?
Steve Sailer needs to invent another law, something like "The more alleged rapists, the hotter she's trying to convince you she is."
Scalzi must've been the ringleader!
https://open.substack.com/pub/thenationmagazine/p/why-i-didnt-report-my-rape?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1a2fq
I've been putting empath with capital letters in my CV for several years now, because I know HR retarded girls are going to fixate on it, and I just want to see what kind of idiocy they are going to spew. Do that, as long as you are able to keep a straight face, you're in for a show.
This sounds... interesting. Please tell us more.
Tell me more. I wish to replicate your troll gaslighting. [EMPATH] where do you put it?
Not really gaslighting, just the less you talk about work with an HR girl the better it goes, like every conversation with a woman about things she doesn't understand. So I put Empath, inj-whatever-personality, world traveler, Scorpio, right below my name. The more it looks like a dating profile the better, the only thing that will be relayed upstream is the professional title anyway. Goal is not trolling but talking about bullshit for the better part of the interview and then make an excuse and bail when she starts going technical. As long as you made a good impression, she'll arrange a meeting with a higher up. Counter-intuitively for deltas, talking about work with an HR girl doesn't help their case. A cokehead can get himself a meeting with a higher up for a management position. Happens all the time.
As for trolling, I don't troll the HR girls, but I can't resist trolling a gamma or a delta manager if present. I just talk about star signs or something like that with the girl, really gets the deltas and gammas mad. The girl's always in on it, so it's hard not to do it, really.
I'd be appalled, except I'm laughing too hard! Cunning.
It's dynamite! You have my sincere appreciation.
Lack of female empathy, oh i remember counting the ways as a small child. Fond remembrances of running into the house at age nine, freaking out because the neighborhood bully threw a rock at me outside which bounced off the railroad tie next to our home's rock gravel driveway, and hit my head. Bleeding from my scalp, I touched the bleeding area with my hand and saw blood pooling in my palm, ran headlong screaming/crying back into the house, at which point my mother, watching some daytime soap opera circa 1987, promptly said, "Stop being a F*#k!ng pussy and go wash it off in the sink!"
Crouching over the sink washing blood off of my scalp, I marveled at her cavalier attitude and received a good solid dose of reality: I really was being a "pu$$y" about the whole thing and needed to man up. Last thing she said to me was, "You should've just washed it off with the garden hose in the back yard. I'll have your Dad yell for you when dinner's ready."
Nowadays, she just smiles at my five and ten yr. old daughters and permits all sorts of mischief. She has become Grandma. My girls will have no idea who she really was back then and will likely treat their kids with the same sincerity when their time comes, which is a good thing. Men are positively shaped by the callous women in their midst. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Do any lambdas have empathy?
Absolutely not.
No. They're too busy admiring themselves.
Wif-A jeet was jackin' @ me in the Target pharmacy!
Me-Where was your blammer?
I have to agree (not that you were asking for confirmation!). In my experience, genuine empathy is rarer than most people think. And what surprises people most is how often it feels absent in medicine; not always because doctors are bad people, but because the training and the pace can sand it down. When you do meet a doctor who leads with empathy, it's most often comes from having personally brushed up against vulnerability; illness, loss, or a hard life lesson that made their human side impossible to ignore.
Was the woman who posted that story from Edina? That sounds like a very suburban Minneapolis tale.
The last part is the most likely true.
One FBI study said that half of rape claims were PROVABLY false. Not "probably".
Scary stuff.
And a sociology prof at Purdue did a study about 20 years ago and discovered that 50% of rape complaints are later retracted, without any discussion of what percentage of those were retracted due to the police confronting the accuser with proof of a false accusation.
What really gets me is this -- why are NONE of the women who make probably false accusations EVER peosecuted?
Vox is right that this woman was never raped. Any normal woman I know who was a victim of some sort of violent crime wanted vengeance.
Not true. Rape is the most falsely reported crime (over 50% false reporting rate vs 3% for almost all other types of crimes), yet at the same time, also the most underreported felony.
Or at least to remove the dangerous animal from the environment wherein other women might encounter.
Over the years, I've chatted online with several rape victims and they literally don't even care about the idea that some other woman will probably get raped due to remaining silent.
Infant daycare has entered the chat 😂
I’m glad Vox addressed this article. It is so insane that normal people over the age of 35 will think it parody. The insanity that has been drilled into the brains of modern woman is beyond suicidal. Can civilization survive with these non humans running around?
Like he does, I wonder if it actually happened.
It's a rather convenient way to collect "Victim" points and "Feminism" points "I'm Most Lefty" points in a neat package.
However, our civilization is put at risk by this attitude, I agree. AWFULs are the final boss.
There's more to high status then empathy, but its a bit confusing.
If a Bravo doesn't have empathy how does he function as a Bravo for his Alpha? And if a sigma lacks empathy isnt he an omega?
Bravo doesn't have to understand the mind of his Alpha. Some don't. He just has to be committed to seeking Alpha's approval and adapting his behavior to Alpha's standards.
A good Bravo develops a good working model of his Alpha's wants. You don't need empathy to do that. Just like most everyone can use a smartphone without understanding the underlying code and operating system. Performance does not require understanding.
Sometimes Bravos misfire.
"Won't someone rid me of this meddlesome priest."
"Ah, let's bash his brains in."
Meant more like how does he work with Deltas in order to get the vibe of the troops to pass on to the Alpha? Not how he gets along with his boss.
If he has no empathy, it's going to be hard to manage the people he's in charge of.
Some of that is just a function of time spent together. Alpha is busy running around making strategic choices. Bravo is there hearing the complaints of the troops and seeing their performance.
It doesn't take empathy to remember what people are saying and track what they did. Though Bravo can probably develop a practical empathy over time. In the absence of talent, experience and collected wisdom will have to do.
From my experience, bravos have selective empathy. They think about who to give it to and when.
Most times, it’s reserved for their alpha as a loyalty indicator.
I thought my dad was a “hell raiser alpha” but after putting his publicly available info into a couple AI’s, they insist he’s a sigma. Steps in to alpha leadership roles for company restructuring, post-restructuring they reliably boot him within three years or so. No long term friendships and doesn’t seem to miss them. Pursues own ends to the total disregard of others. Also super charming, gets all the women, and hugely successful at accomplishing his goals. Handsome, charming, motivated, accomplished, wealthy.
He’s also probably a sociopath.
Seems to genuinely not have a framework for other people having minds, but can charm and manipulate them based on an abstract understanding of what their behavior shows about their motivations.
By contrast, my husband is a sigma who does have empathy. Similar behavioral patterns, although longer tolerance for situational alpha roles (7 years versus 3). But I think the lack of/empathy informs what they each chose as their various ends/missions, how they go about achieving them, who if anyone is along for the ride, and their awareness of and ability to tune in and care about whether and how what they’re doing impacts others.
The biggest difference in the empathy side is that my husband feels bad, albeit confused since he never wanted to be anyone’s leader, when he goes all “mission accomplished, moving on” and leaves people feeling abandoned and sad. My dad is so unaware of the impact of his behavior unless the other person’s reaction is directly operational to him, that he generally keeps using an organization for his own ends until he gets kicked out. But he always gets picked up by the next thing for carrying out a similar restructuring operation. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him feel bad about anything.
Which is to say, that I don’t think empathy is necessary to the sigma behavioral pattern.
Empathy, like many qualities, exists on a gradient. A Bravo would have some empathy, possibly more than most, but might have to concentrate on it more than for an Alpha where it flowed more naturally.
What is the word for "here's how I would feel if I were in your situation?" It's between sympathy and empathy.
"Chrysopathy: I know how I would feel in your situation."
Grok cites Vox for this word (!), and it especially likes how the Greek prefix Chryso (golden) is a mod to the Golden Rule, and overall rates it stronger than Propathy. Vox is the John Henry of neologisms.
That's it! The word escaped me. In the meantime, I ran this by DeepSeek, Gemini and Grok, and they all came up with the word "propathy." I'm gonna run this word by them, it'll be interesting to read their responses to this.
Asking for a friend who's to lazy to search the site.
> Bravos may or may not, I’m not entirely sure.
Yes, but it's not natural and automatic like an alpha. It requires specific consideration. When you stop to think about it, it washes over you. I try to consider it more as I get older, because it reveals a lot of ulterior motives that I normally wouldn't tick to, like realizing that the person feels smug and self-satisfied, revealing that they were working towards the bad outcome rather than trying to stop it..
I've been formulating an opinion that Bravo empathy is more... pithy.
Example:
Bravo: I already know how he feels, I don't need to ask.
Alpha: I know how he feels, but I am going to ask him anyway, so he can start talking about it, so that the problem can get fixed.
I know I have empathy, but it seems high-speed, low-drag rather than comprehensive, almost as if I'm permanently in triage mode.
that could also just depend on the personalities & relationships involved.
there are chatty Alphas and quiet Bravos, & vice versa. the quiet Alphas often play Bravo to the mega-Alphas whenever those characters turn up.
100%.
On multiple occasions, I've seen Alphas mentally promote me to Bravo the minute we get into those sorts of conversations.
True Deltas just can't quite do it, no matter how well-meaning they may be.
"this guy gets it" versus "this guy is oblivious" create a very natural breakpoint. The Bravo can support some of the Alpha's strategic aims and herd the group in the right direction, while it's beyond the self-focused Delta.
I was about to say that when this woman cried "rape," at least no innocent men were harmed in the process. Sometimes women do that as a cry for attention and sympathy; it's still awful, but the social impact is minimal.
Then it dawned on me that there likely *is* some guy who she wants to make suffer, that people who know her will automatically assume is the perpetrator, and who will suffer social consequences without the option of ever being granted a fair trial or to combat the whisper campaign in any way. Which, if that turns out to be the case, is utterly diabolical.
Hey, don't assume the r*pist's gender.