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Tom's avatar
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Hazing.

Aka boot camp, training camp, rush. Let alone the more advanced versions.

One could plausibly posit the necessity of hazing to the full mental development of males, stress-adaptation-growth style.

Bullying, the less-favored version of hazing, probably serves some similar biologically necessary function. Humans being obligate social creatures, it is implied that heirarchy and bullying are inherent.

After all-things that persist across time and place are usually useful.

And, as Vox has mentioned-all heirarchy is fractal. So the process never ends.

CL's avatar

brought a tear to my eye. everyone knows where they stand. you can just smash a gamma in the mouth. no HR.

J B's avatar

The locker room is a great place for men to be men

The Candid Clodhopper's avatar

Vox, given the alpha's natural suspicion of sigmas, is there anything you do to let alphas know you're not intent on challenging or undermining them?

Vox Day's avatar

I keep my mouth shut and my opinions to myself. They're always suspicious even so, though, and are quick to shut me down before I even finish suggesting anything, even when it's obviously sensible.

Which tends to make it easier for me to keep my opinions to myself, to be honest.

Snowyteller's avatar

Even if not a word is said, the gaze unsettles, and even if one is circumspect in human observation...

It disturbs people even if they don't consiously realise that being analysed is what's setting off their senses.

The Candid Clodhopper's avatar

For many years it felt uncanny how easy it was to piss people off without saying a word. Then one day a girl at the bar told me I have "judgy eyes."

jarebear369's avatar

Vox nails it again. We have to protect the order, it's instinctual and imperative. I do not know why we are like this and why everyone else is how they are, but Vox building the framework is so spot on it's impossible to deny. Two of us simply cannot exist in the same space unless one of us submits, or leaves. It's amusing that we can even sense each other's presence immediately. Even more amusing that the sigma is smarter, more calculating, and possibly more effective at maintaining order, yet has zero interest in participating.

Coffee Guy Chris's avatar

Would the reader who told this story mind explaining what he meant by “silly hazing ritual”? The word hazing has been repurposed by Gammas to imply all sorts of twisted cruelty and humiliation. I know it really just refers to busting your chops, maybe with a prank added in. I’m curious to know the difference between this real life example a and the Clown World depiction.

Kevin Meier's avatar

Nowadays hazing can easily simple consequences. It's also somewhat of an initiation to a group of friends that aren't losers like your current friend group. I'm sure it can go overboard sometimes but sometimes it's as simple as making a fat kid do pushups and he cries to an adult who sticks up for him so he can get diabetes young. If he would have taken the hazing on as a challenge he would have built muscle and been far healthier and probably hung around a higher caliber of people.

Sledge With An Edge's avatar

Not the author of the anecdote, but here are some observations: There are levels to it. Some hazing rituals are more harmful than others. It does often include a power dynamic within an existing hierarchy, so Gammas hate it and overzealous Alphas and Bravos or Alpha-pretenders may be prone to abuse it. It can absolutely smoke out a person's character and status as it symbolizes subordination to the Alpha or to the hierarchy structure itself, so resistance to the hazing usually means the hazing is intensified. An Alpha taking over will go through a more symbolic hazing that is void of any element of humiliation and more akin to an anointing.

Z3r0's avatar

You're confusing and complicating this matter. Hazing is that thing they do in college.