The funny thing is, for many Alphas and Bravos, the increased downpour of women might ultimately reduce their reproductive fitness. The mechanisms might be increased opportunity cost of settling down or reduced fertility/value of older mates when they do, although presumably Alphas only need to pick 1 or 2 out of a huge selection so that shouldn't be as much of an issue.
But if the reproductive fitness of Deltas and Gammas drops even more, then A/B would still win out, unless humans go extinct.
Two things: Jews in America have been routinely identifying and targeting alphas for their harassment and supplantment agenda; the culture of Judaism is gamma-centric. The subversion of our culture has revolved around divide&conquer tactics which seek to turn alphas against their natural followers and vice-versa; whoremongering is the negative side of being alpha, not the positive, and disincentivizes delta and bravo support for alphas since these men want and deserve faithful wives.
Very true. Almost all based on word games, and a very heavy use of the equivocation fallacy to make utterly insane ideas appear sane, so that rational conclusions can be portrayed as "bigoted," "hateful," "delusional," or "insane."
Alpha sexual dominance should be a steady-state phenomenon. So, increasing trend of sexless males could mean that alpha advantage becomes more manifest in a certain culture. A culture that allows greater female choice, for example.
But, then it means that the alpha advantage is not manifest in traditional cultures where female choice is restrained. Only in modern West, we do see the frank alpha sexual dominance.
This is completely out of context to the post. But I've just asked deep seek to do an analysis of "The Sandlot" movie from the 90s based on Vox day's SSH, and it did a really good job in my opinion. And I would encourage anyone to do the same as well as Vox.
Prior to the Indo-European migrations, in the neolithic settlements of Europe, only 1 in seventeen men got to reproduce. That's 5.88%. In other words, the alphas of the neolithic societies took all the women for themselves; not even the bravos got a share.
Given that the neolithics were infamous for the Longhouse and their grain-heavy diet, it doesn't take a genius to surmise that women weren't the only commodity that these alphas hoarded. This wealth-consolidation made neolithic society vulnerable to the Indo-Europeans.
At the start of my reading on the topic, I mistakenly thought that the neolithic Europeans were a matriarchal society. The DNA evidence and and today's SG post show otherwise. Patriarchy is baked into human nature, and emerges no matter what a society does to repress it. History shows that, when a society rebels against patriarchy, the only thing it accomplishes is to make way for another society that won't.
There's one major exception: Most of sub-Saharan Africa is matriarchal.
African matriarchy is one of the main contributors into why it's so screwed up with societies existing at mere subsistance level even in a land in which food is so plentiful that agriculture isn't a necessity. There is no tradition of even attempting scientific inquiry (which is a male pursuit) to learn more than what is strictly needed for mere survival, even despite THOUSANDS of years of contact with European and Asian societies who relied upon scientific inquiry (navigation, mapmaking) for them to even make contact with these tribes. Many of these tribes have the following number system:
So you're saying that the chant from "The Acolyte" was merely due to the fact that those lesbian space witches couldn't count to three? That checks out.
Evil cow worshiping wannabes like, By Devika Rao, The Week, will always seethe and squirm at the truth of reality. One low delta would seem like Dwayne Johnson or Tom Cruise in any part of India. How will the gamma filled India handle getting replaced by AI?
What would be the multiple for Sigma lifetime partners? Are Sigmas more likely to be serial monogomists? For example, years of continued LTRs but low likelihood of lifetime commitment/marriage to one?
My sigma friend was a serial monogamist. I was also serially monogamist in the my 20s, but as a typical bravo, my gf lasted a year while his lasted 4 months. I don't know how often he dated between gf, as he never talked about it, and never introduced a non-gf to his friends.
A serial monogamist is not a monogamist in any meaningful sense. He is simply a whoremonger. Our forefathers Jacob, Gideon, David, Solomon, and Josiah had multiple women but they never kicked any of them to the curb.
I like how the first paragraph basically disproved evolution with its own stupid argument. I don’t think I am an ape or related to one so why would I apply the standards of apes to a human characteristic. I do know that it’s false in any context but the category error means they are arguing against evolution with their own stupidity. Hilarious.
does anyone here use Snapchat? did you know that very famous app has no age verification of the members and kids as young as 11 are offering to send nude images to grown adults and there is nothing that can be done though their terms and conditions state they will comply with law enforcement.
"It’s not an accident that the men who are most successful with women also happen to be the men who are most inclined to ignore what women say they prefer."
..........
For the ladies, authoress Jagi Lamplighter explains why:
Her theory completely excluded the undeniable reality of women pursuing thugs. And not merely for access to the psychoactive drugs these guys are almost always heavily involved with.
On that basis alone, this is another "I'm telling you men what I want you to think about women and ignore the observable reality happening right in front of your face on a daily basis."
It's a variation of,"After the revolution, women who are 50 years old fat and, 4x-divorced with all the emotional baggage that implied will be the new swimsuit models "
I wonder if the aggravated obsession of Alpha-ness (directly or indirectly) by both women and lower-status men is contributing to the purported population decline.
Alphas being 5% of men surprised me and really shows how hard it is for the government to hire Alphas. Less than 1% of people I worked with are Alpha Males. Instead most of the leaders are Bravos, who have bravos under them. The Alphas I do know rarely get promoted above first line supervisor and often have a large amount of EEO complaints filed against them.
I knew a turbo alpha who was a nurse lead. All the nurses, who were otherwise girls, loved flirting with him. A chubbo got rejected when she asked him out directly and then promptly reported him to HR and out he went.
An Alpha would have to be pretty desperate to put up with going through the HR process, considering their default attitudes toward Alphas in the first place.
I give it 5 years befor deltas realize they can buy sex and will seek more prostitute. Then again Berline already has robot brothels so price competition could get interesting.
maybe this is closer than you realise. how many simps pay for Onlyfans etc? despite the millions of pages of free porn, they choose to line the bank accounts of women willing to show nudity.
The price would probably have to come down for deltas to embrace prostitution to any great degree. They aren't and won't be interested in methhead lot lizards, which is more their price point. Aside from what Dave says
I'm honestly thinking that the very tops and bottoms of the SSH are the prostitute users. That would be alphas and gammas with a dose of omega. Prostitution has been around and deltas aren't really biting but OnlyFans, an entire platform of pedestalizing women, has record growth. This tells me that deltas are too invested in finding their soulmate and don't see women with enough objectification to use prostitutes.
Paid sex is not a magical escape from the realities of the SSH. In the world of paid sex alphas are the pimps, bravos pay less than 20% of what deltas pay, gammas are rarely serviced by prostitutes anyone would touch without a stick. Most regular customers are bravos. Deltas will never embrace prostitution en masse, because sex is not what they seek. Money or no money, same rules still apply. Keep that in mind when you are on the internet. 80% of commenters who talk about paid sex are larpers who've never been with a prostitute. Feel free to mercilessly call them out.
Are you really bragging about paying for sex? You label commentators who haven't paid for sex as "larpers". Isn't a dude who pays for sex a larper?
The guy who hasn't paid for hookers is just ignorant of the topic, and is speculating on it. He is a speculator not a larper.
I could see Alphas as perhaps paying for high class prostitutes. They might have more money than time, and just don't want the hassle of putting any work into women.
Outside of soft prostitution like sugar baby websites, which i have never used, im not even sure where one would find a prostitute. Which is fine, because i am not looking. Also, gross.
And OnlyFans isn’t real paid sex in any case. It’s just pornography — a way for women with loose morals to tap into low-SSH men’s wallets without having to get physically intimate with them.
Using porn used to be a low-SSH-coded putdown among men, like dating a fat chick.
Used to be? Malaka is still the national insult in Greece and the Balkans. It's unfathomable to me why Westerners don't immediately verbally abuse wankers as soon as they identify them.
You're an Easterner? I'm not. Honour culture is synonymous with Japanese, Middle Eastern Islamic or the Orthodox Christians. Mean people who dislike personal freedom. Shame and honour have been bred out of the culture in the West. Western women are made free. Free from patriarchal honour culture.
Besides, being effeminate is praised in the cities. Socialistic politics don't want right-wing men to be effective, persuasive or popular. Masculinity is for the police, tradesmen and low-class foreigners.
From the article on the study denying the existence of alpha males among apes:
"The belief that males are inherently dominant is likely because researchers "often projected their own biases and expectations onto animal behavior," said El País."
So this new cohort pf scientists seem to merely be doing what their older peers did, but with their own set of ideological assumptions.
The funny thing is, for many Alphas and Bravos, the increased downpour of women might ultimately reduce their reproductive fitness. The mechanisms might be increased opportunity cost of settling down or reduced fertility/value of older mates when they do, although presumably Alphas only need to pick 1 or 2 out of a huge selection so that shouldn't be as much of an issue.
But if the reproductive fitness of Deltas and Gammas drops even more, then A/B would still win out, unless humans go extinct.
Two things: Jews in America have been routinely identifying and targeting alphas for their harassment and supplantment agenda; the culture of Judaism is gamma-centric. The subversion of our culture has revolved around divide&conquer tactics which seek to turn alphas against their natural followers and vice-versa; whoremongering is the negative side of being alpha, not the positive, and disincentivizes delta and bravo support for alphas since these men want and deserve faithful wives.
Very true. Almost all based on word games, and a very heavy use of the equivocation fallacy to make utterly insane ideas appear sane, so that rational conclusions can be portrayed as "bigoted," "hateful," "delusional," or "insane."
Alpha sexual dominance should be a steady-state phenomenon. So, increasing trend of sexless males could mean that alpha advantage becomes more manifest in a certain culture. A culture that allows greater female choice, for example.
But, then it means that the alpha advantage is not manifest in traditional cultures where female choice is restrained. Only in modern West, we do see the frank alpha sexual dominance.
This is completely out of context to the post. But I've just asked deep seek to do an analysis of "The Sandlot" movie from the 90s based on Vox day's SSH, and it did a really good job in my opinion. And I would encourage anyone to do the same as well as Vox.
I think Vox might have really influenced deepseek.
Prior to the Indo-European migrations, in the neolithic settlements of Europe, only 1 in seventeen men got to reproduce. That's 5.88%. In other words, the alphas of the neolithic societies took all the women for themselves; not even the bravos got a share.
Given that the neolithics were infamous for the Longhouse and their grain-heavy diet, it doesn't take a genius to surmise that women weren't the only commodity that these alphas hoarded. This wealth-consolidation made neolithic society vulnerable to the Indo-Europeans.
At the start of my reading on the topic, I mistakenly thought that the neolithic Europeans were a matriarchal society. The DNA evidence and and today's SG post show otherwise. Patriarchy is baked into human nature, and emerges no matter what a society does to repress it. History shows that, when a society rebels against patriarchy, the only thing it accomplishes is to make way for another society that won't.
There's one major exception: Most of sub-Saharan Africa is matriarchal.
African matriarchy is one of the main contributors into why it's so screwed up with societies existing at mere subsistance level even in a land in which food is so plentiful that agriculture isn't a necessity. There is no tradition of even attempting scientific inquiry (which is a male pursuit) to learn more than what is strictly needed for mere survival, even despite THOUSANDS of years of contact with European and Asian societies who relied upon scientific inquiry (navigation, mapmaking) for them to even make contact with these tribes. Many of these tribes have the following number system:
One, Two, Many.
So you're saying that the chant from "The Acolyte" was merely due to the fact that those lesbian space witches couldn't count to three? That checks out.
I've never even heard of it, let alone seen it, but your comment gave me a good chuckle.
Evil cow worshiping wannabes like, By Devika Rao, The Week, will always seethe and squirm at the truth of reality. One low delta would seem like Dwayne Johnson or Tom Cruise in any part of India. How will the gamma filled India handle getting replaced by AI?
"While the number of young men who report having no sexual experiences is increasing, there are also men who have more sex partners than ever before."
Nature abhors a vaccum.
What would be the multiple for Sigma lifetime partners? Are Sigmas more likely to be serial monogomists? For example, years of continued LTRs but low likelihood of lifetime commitment/marriage to one?
5x to 10x. No. No.
Sigmas are less attached than Alphas.
My sigma friend was a serial monogamist. I was also serially monogamist in the my 20s, but as a typical bravo, my gf lasted a year while his lasted 4 months. I don't know how often he dated between gf, as he never talked about it, and never introduced a non-gf to his friends.
A serial monogamist is not a monogamist in any meaningful sense. He is simply a whoremonger. Our forefathers Jacob, Gideon, David, Solomon, and Josiah had multiple women but they never kicked any of them to the curb.
He almost certainly did date between girlfriends, a lot. And he wouldn't have told you about it.
Sigmas are highly detached. I would expect they'd rival an Alpha in terms of partners.
I like how the first paragraph basically disproved evolution with its own stupid argument. I don’t think I am an ape or related to one so why would I apply the standards of apes to a human characteristic. I do know that it’s false in any context but the category error means they are arguing against evolution with their own stupidity. Hilarious.
does anyone here use Snapchat? did you know that very famous app has no age verification of the members and kids as young as 11 are offering to send nude images to grown adults and there is nothing that can be done though their terms and conditions state they will comply with law enforcement.
I imagine that those accounts aren't actually being used by 11 year old kids. They're being run by adults who have control over these kids.
As in this https://voxday.net/2025/07/28/cracks-in-the-pedocracy-2/
I was on the platform for months. kids around my kids age calling me a MILF = ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Again, assuming that those account owners are actually using accurate identities, which I doubt.
Snapchat seems to be primarily populated by whorish "influencers" and such.
They are. I vividly remember being 6th grade and having classmates date 35 year olds. Not an isolated case. It's a wicked world.
"It’s not an accident that the men who are most successful with women also happen to be the men who are most inclined to ignore what women say they prefer."
..........
For the ladies, authoress Jagi Lamplighter explains why:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-169502615
Her theory completely excluded the undeniable reality of women pursuing thugs. And not merely for access to the psychoactive drugs these guys are almost always heavily involved with.
On that basis alone, this is another "I'm telling you men what I want you to think about women and ignore the observable reality happening right in front of your face on a daily basis."
It's a variation of,"After the revolution, women who are 50 years old fat and, 4x-divorced with all the emotional baggage that implied will be the new swimsuit models "
I wonder if the aggravated obsession of Alpha-ness (directly or indirectly) by both women and lower-status men is contributing to the purported population decline.
This is clear to see to anyone was on the dating scene and honest.
Must use clownworld negative reality to hide.
Alphas being 5% of men surprised me and really shows how hard it is for the government to hire Alphas. Less than 1% of people I worked with are Alpha Males. Instead most of the leaders are Bravos, who have bravos under them. The Alphas I do know rarely get promoted above first line supervisor and often have a large amount of EEO complaints filed against them.
5 out of 100 is easy hiring, they dont want to hire Alphas. Because Alphas would then be in control, and not the people avoiding hiring Alphas.
I knew a turbo alpha who was a nurse lead. All the nurses, who were otherwise girls, loved flirting with him. A chubbo got rejected when she asked him out directly and then promptly reported him to HR and out he went.
That tracks. Alphas and Sigmas would, I expect, have by far the most trouble with HR-dependent employment.
Because the women talk about them all the time, it means they will inevitably get the HR Eye of Sauron on them too.
An Alpha would have to be pretty desperate to put up with going through the HR process, considering their default attitudes toward Alphas in the first place.
I give it 5 years befor deltas realize they can buy sex and will seek more prostitute. Then again Berline already has robot brothels so price competition could get interesting.
maybe this is closer than you realise. how many simps pay for Onlyfans etc? despite the millions of pages of free porn, they choose to line the bank accounts of women willing to show nudity.
If you weren't hit with an ugly stick, game and fitness can let a Delta slay the 4-6 range with a rare 7.
The price would probably have to come down for deltas to embrace prostitution to any great degree. They aren't and won't be interested in methhead lot lizards, which is more their price point. Aside from what Dave says
Since Deltas tend to be the most law-abiding rank, another concern would be legal problems.
I'm honestly thinking that the very tops and bottoms of the SSH are the prostitute users. That would be alphas and gammas with a dose of omega. Prostitution has been around and deltas aren't really biting but OnlyFans, an entire platform of pedestalizing women, has record growth. This tells me that deltas are too invested in finding their soulmate and don't see women with enough objectification to use prostitutes.
Incorrect.
1. Alphas have no difficulty getting partners, because women find them attractive.
2. Sex work costs money and using sex workers lowers your status. That includes Only Fans etc.
Remember, the SSH is orthogonal to the values of the corporate world, which lies continually.
Paid sex is not a magical escape from the realities of the SSH. In the world of paid sex alphas are the pimps, bravos pay less than 20% of what deltas pay, gammas are rarely serviced by prostitutes anyone would touch without a stick. Most regular customers are bravos. Deltas will never embrace prostitution en masse, because sex is not what they seek. Money or no money, same rules still apply. Keep that in mind when you are on the internet. 80% of commenters who talk about paid sex are larpers who've never been with a prostitute. Feel free to mercilessly call them out.
Are you really bragging about paying for sex? You label commentators who haven't paid for sex as "larpers". Isn't a dude who pays for sex a larper?
The guy who hasn't paid for hookers is just ignorant of the topic, and is speculating on it. He is a speculator not a larper.
I could see Alphas as perhaps paying for high class prostitutes. They might have more money than time, and just don't want the hassle of putting any work into women.
Then again, I'm speculating 🤔
Outside of soft prostitution like sugar baby websites, which i have never used, im not even sure where one would find a prostitute. Which is fine, because i am not looking. Also, gross.
And OnlyFans isn’t real paid sex in any case. It’s just pornography — a way for women with loose morals to tap into low-SSH men’s wallets without having to get physically intimate with them.
Using porn used to be a low-SSH-coded putdown among men, like dating a fat chick.
Used to be? Malaka is still the national insult in Greece and the Balkans. It's unfathomable to me why Westerners don't immediately verbally abuse wankers as soon as they identify them.
You're an Easterner? I'm not. Honour culture is synonymous with Japanese, Middle Eastern Islamic or the Orthodox Christians. Mean people who dislike personal freedom. Shame and honour have been bred out of the culture in the West. Western women are made free. Free from patriarchal honour culture.
Besides, being effeminate is praised in the cities. Socialistic politics don't want right-wing men to be effective, persuasive or popular. Masculinity is for the police, tradesmen and low-class foreigners.
From the article on the study denying the existence of alpha males among apes:
"The belief that males are inherently dominant is likely because researchers "often projected their own biases and expectations onto animal behavior," said El País."
So this new cohort pf scientists seem to merely be doing what their older peers did, but with their own set of ideological assumptions.
this is true. you only need to watch documentaries on them on Animal Planet and it is known they have a hierarchy among them
These MFers never seen a silverback standing next to any random female gorilla?
Science is so incredibly fake and gay it's unbelievable.