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MickDubya's avatar

Whats the actual problem here? Because she's a journo she is supposed to be impartial to the subject matter and by being involved with the patriots coach she will be biased?

Vox Day's avatar

Huge conflicts of interest. For example, she wrote a big story about AJ Brown, the Eagles WR whom the Patriots are pursuing. It tended to drive down his trade value.

For a few days, the theory was that the Eagles hired the PI who took the photos.

MontenegroBear's avatar

Is picking arguments with your wife in the hopes to expose and get her to acknowledge her unaccountable behaviour not a gamma trait?

Vox’s great advice that if you know a woman’s limitations you can’t get angry at her, helps a lot with the relationship and also one becoming more mature.

Vox Day's avatar

Yes. It's passive-aggressive and manipulative. Very Gamma.

BodrevBodrev's avatar

Arguing is generally a low status behavior. But holding someone accountable and convincing them they should be accountable by explaining it are two different things. All holding someone accountable means is rejecting their behavior from an authoritative position. Hence, mostly a non starter for a gamma or a delta.

B. E. Gordon's avatar

It would appear that the arguing results from the Delta or Gamma trying to argue with the woman as if they were arguing with another man, often dialectically. Ironically enough, it's a consequence of the Delta / Gamma accepting the premise of equalism between men and women as self-evident.

This problem is of course also horrible in the dating market, where men are tilting right-wing and women left-wing.

BodrevBodrev's avatar

Probably, but what would be the point of arguing even with a man? Every single argument boils down to you-should-do-this-instead. A man is either in a position to tell people what to do, or he is not. Arguing is annoying essentially because someone who isn't in a position to tell you what to do tries to do it anyway, hence low-status.

As for political arguments, political leanings are literally written on men's faces. They aren't changing.

Plus deltas and gammas basically live in some internal clogged up argument, so they perceive everyone around them arguing with them. A delta some weeks ago told me that I was always arguing, while a bravo who's known me my entire life remarked he's never seen me arguing with anybody.

MontenegroBear's avatar

Yea such an important skill to have. And why natural alphas don’t cause the same backlash and offence to criticism as when deltas try to come from an authoritative position.

Baker Street Bear's avatar

All this bullshit just because women "have the right" to report on...football.

Women and Jews just cannot quit while they're ahead in society. At all.

"All the other women 'legitimately' reporting on football are going to be pissed!" Boston Sports Radio has been saying.

No one wants women reporting on football. They should've been happy the hot ones got to interview players on field after the game.

Thank God they're not doing color commentary yet.

Scott A's avatar

Thank God they're not doing color commentary yet.

GIve it time. They're in baseball, and hockey and they are awful. All of them.

James Allin's avatar

Vox didn't ban Cedric for several major gamma takes. Must be feeling charitable today.

Vox Day's avatar

I don't ban for Gamma takes. I ban for Gammas trying to attack me or other readers.

Michael Maier's avatar

Why is it men who are rich and somewhat famous and absolutely have status among alpha men, seem to go for such low-hanging fruit? Is it really hard for them to get actual attractive women?

Vox Day's avatar

It's not hard, but it requires modifying their lives. Someone like Russini will never ask, much less expect, Vrabel to leave his wife or otherwise disrupt his life.

Scott A's avatar

Because it's easy

JW's avatar

That’s exactly why and you don’t have to have money or be famous.

Outis's avatar

Read the Sigma Game post from 2 days ago about the same scandal. It’s titled, “The Noose Tightens.”

It has a paragraph in there that answers your question.

Billy's avatar

Can we crowdfund the husband a vacation for one?

BodrevBodrev's avatar

Absolutely no. He's a total chump and I'm not giving money to anyone to go on vacation and NOT get laid.

Masked Menace's avatar

As pathetic as this is, I bet he stays with her and attempts to work things out. In my book, he got what he deserved. He'd probably use any crowdfunding money to buy her a gift to get her back.

Baker Street Bear's avatar

Right? Especially after she shit on him on national TV or whatever, calling him average and not worth posting on social media about.

Masked Menace's avatar

In his mind he'll "save" her and she'll ultimately love him for his selfless sacrifice.

Billy's avatar

1 unaccountable person in a workplace can ruin it.

Women have a tendency to be held accountable less.

As with the tactic of shooting traitors first, we must make examples of the toxic little turds who encourage women underperform.

Brian B's avatar

Men really aren't supposed to be the ones holding women accountable. Women are. The reason women would hold other women accountable is because if a man has to take that role, his reaction very well may have been violent or fatal. This is where slut shaming came from. Women would slut shame other women in order to hold the slut accountable, because if she wasn't held accountable then she risked interfering in male heirarchical space which would activate male conflict cycles. Historically, male conflict cycles could be deadly to women and children.

This is why women should not be in male spaces, like a sports journalism outlet. In a world that is rightly ordered, this woman's husband would probably beat her or kill her and then maybe even go after the AP. It disrupts the male heirarchical order. Instead we have low status male "allies" who band together to white knight for the disordered female, protecting her from the accountability she really should have been getting from women in the first place.

In a normal world, the ither women in her social group would have nipped her behavior in the bud.

BodrevBodrev's avatar

Of course it's going to be men. In what-you-gonna-do-about-it world it's all about force, so who else?

SirHamster's avatar

"Men really aren't supposed to be the ones holding women accountable."

Tell that to Adam. Men who won't hold women accountable are failing to lead. They are giving up their authority to women.

The Alpha fails because he's too busy chasing tail and being charmed. The Delta fails because he's afraid of losing her. All SSH ranks of men need to understand their role in maintaining the group's mission and pushing back against every level of female misconduct.

Ives's avatar

There's an unwritten rule with people like the reporter woman who use sexual access to gain access to information. That rule is: Don't get caught. From what we've see from this case, everybody knew that she was sleeping her way up the career totem pole and everybody kept it under wraps.

Once she got caught with those photos with Mike Vrabel the secret was out. Her manager who I assume has gotten a lot of good inside info from her over the years due to the way she gathered intel had to know that the game was up. She'd gotten caught.

Goes to show that the boss was a weak man who refused to accept the real rules of the game. It also makes you wonder if at some point he received favors from her and he was afraid of getting outed as well.

Nick Webster's avatar

But remember, Bill Belichick is not a hall of fame level coach according to these gammas.

Jbearman's avatar

The arguments about women here on this blog are very logical and consistent. Since women are solipsistic, if you do not hold them accountable, they will make themselves the center of the workplace, the home, the public sphere, the marriage, the club, etc. etc. A society with a large group of people that places themselves at the center of it will collapse. Good societies work when everyone works together for the betterment of all, not with the self as the center.

The story of Adam and Eve is exactly this. The woman eats the fruit in an attempt to make herself the center of the cosmos. Adam passively goes along. All he had to do was speak up and not go along, but he couldn't even do that. Ideally, he should have knocked the fruit out of her hand before she ate, but even if he would have just said something and resisted, things would have gone totally different.

Holding a woman accountable really might mean to just call out their BS. It doesn't have to be earth shattering. You don't have to be a jerk, or be overbearing. But as men of western society, we cannot conceivably continue to go along with a charade due to a bit of discomfort. Men recognize reality, our problem is we are too lazy or passive to enforce it. Women easily fall to self deception. It's put to us to help them with their self deception, and this is most certainly what God intended.

Masked Menace's avatar

It's all over. There's no coming back from this. Yet, I can't look away. Oh, the humanity.

Scott A's avatar

AI is going to be able to tell gamma from pictures soon. If they don't neuter it

https://x.com/stevenjay/photo

B. E. Gordon's avatar

Grok at least can’t quite yet… I just tried it.

JT's avatar

“Sneaky” and “Ginsberg” definitely correlate.

Redwood Bear's avatar

Generally, women ultimately appreciate when you hold them accountable.

doclove's avatar

Even Omegas are more likely to hold women to accountable than Deltas and Gammas once they are no longer frightened or they simply have had more than enough not to care anymore. Sigmas are most likely to hold women accountable, Alphas following behind in 2nd place, Bravos in 3rd place and Omegas in 4th place. Gammas and Deltas are competing for 5th and 6th places. That’s my observation and opinion. Feel free to disagree.

B. E. Gordon's avatar

How about women themselves? My impression is that they’re worse than top men but better than Gammas or Deltas.

doclove's avatar

I agree. I stayed on topic and did not include Lambda men and women. Omega men know and understand human evil better than most because they are more often than others the victim of it either through neglect from others or actively victimized for no good reason. Most other Social Sexual Hierarchy ranks of men treat Omega men better than Gamma men and Women do on average. In addition to this, Gamma men are more successful in platonic and romantic relationships as well as sexually with women than Omega men are which Omega men notice more than anyone else if they are perceptive, intelligent and wise. It’s just my opinion and feel free to disagree.

BodrevBodrev's avatar

Women are just as likely to shame a feminist in the company of a high status man as they are to praise her in the company of a low status man. Most do both often within the time span of days.

Cedric's avatar

What's this obsession about holding women accountable?

Yes, Fresh and Fit and such podcasts are incredibly addictive. To see them do a black and islamic version of the Manosphere's Dr Phil, but that's TV. If she wants to be a loyal, stereotypical housewife, that's what the woman will do. And woman past a certain age does what she wants. If she chooses to piss off dad by dating a black guy, who is going to stop her? She holds herself accountable. Just as a man stops or continues watching porn when he chooses to. How is a parent supposed to stop a child from leaving the faith, or leaving atheism for devout Christianity? The disagreeable fight harder when they meet opposition.

Kicking her off the podcasts when she is not being the good woman with her sundress, it works on fucking podcasts. When she's your woman or your friend or someone at church, in real life, well, it's going to be such an epic and ridiculous disaster. How I want to see that. It's going to be as popular and successful as arguing against women's education, at church, among all of the normal with streets-smarts. I've never seen arguments against the women's education in real life, but I would also like to see that. When all of the women are feminists, including the girlfriends and the wives, please, for the love of God and the jokes, would any man 'hold the women accountable' in real life? And can I go make some popcorn first?

Drewie's avatar

"When she's your woman or your friend or someone at church, in real life, well, it's going to be such an epic and ridiculous disaster."

What she's gonna leave you? not be your friend anymore?

BodrevBodrev's avatar

What exactly is the problem with holding mothers, wives, and so on feminists accountable? I gave you a real situation as an example of how to do it in a previous post.

Vox Day's avatar

You're being retarded. Women can be held accountable, but men like you are afraid to do so, or don't even believe it is possible. And the argument against women's education is very simple and straightforward: no society that educates women beyond eight years of schooling maintains birth rates above the replacement rate.

Which means no society with educated women will survive more than four generations.

Cedric's avatar

I have helped female friends from suicidal thoughts, after I read The Last Closet. I can't or won't talk about what I got to hear about after reading that book. Normal men don't read such books out of curiosity. Normal men don't pick a fight with feminists with that biography as an argument. Reckless men do that. And I was afraid then to get accusations from the feminists. And I made sure to protect the deltas from the high-IQ feminists. Deltas don't argue with feminists.

You're a lot more than normal. It's hard to argue against female education, and I try in private with very close friends. You could do it public, because you have fuck-you-money and the ability to survive the social shame. Someone without the fuck-you-money or the abnormal psychology doesn't dare to do it in public. Normal men with 100IQ can't. "Laws are rules for the fools, and guidelines for the wise."

And I am aware that high-IQ correlates negatively with fertility. Except when they're devoutly Christian. I've seen smart, educated young men and women get married. I've told friends to ask her out, despite the low odds. And I've had to persuade myself in similar ways that the damned and depressively lows odds can go to hell. As you've written in other ways, even if the odds are low, do it anyway. Ask her out, go to the gym, go to church. To quote Han Solo, "Never tell me the odds." Go, do it and you might succeed. Be afraid, and you've lost before the game is over. It's hard and impossible, but do it anyway. Believe.

I told a feminist with IQ in Mensa about your writing. She began to call me a midwit, and I asked her to grow out her hair, to wear dress and just go marry a decent Christian man who lifts. She laughed when I told her how, statistically, she doesn't exist. "Please, dear friend. Learn to use small words with me."

I've gotten bored with depression and fear. Eventually, it gets old. A man with ADHD runs to chaos when the boredom gets to strong. I'm similarly foolish, in defending my retarded comments right here.

Vox Day's avatar

The only difference is that you live in fear and I don't. Some of that is inevitable; you want to keep your place in your hierarchy and I don't have one. But you don't need to live with as much fear as you appear to have.

When people are calling you things, its only words. They don't matter.

Drewie's avatar

Instead of searching for approval and telling ppl what to do , how about you get some standards and hold yourself accountable to them. Then hold others accountable if they wanna stay in your life.

Stop trying to justify and meddle in ppls business. I don't have "fuck you money" yet either and I'm not worried about my values or how they will be perceived because I'm not gay.

ThirdMonkey79's avatar

It's more so consistency, not obsession. Most women, and feminists in particular, are completely incapable of holding themselves accountable.

Deron Flubtuddle's avatar

The pedestal has a totemic effect.